The best fighter that never realized his own potential....

[fightfan_79]

Jermain Taylor and Zab Judah... Of Course.. Taylor is right on the edge .. Zab judah just needs to train man.


Might I even say Mike tyson.. Imagine him disciplined and well behaved.. no slack before the buster fight.. no drugs before the holyfield fight.. no police time..

I blame personal life for Tyson.....Buster fight.....going thru divorce with Robin, he supposedly had the Flu that night, Don King was counting Tyson's money, blah blah blah.....to me...Tyson was one of the most focused and disciplined heavyweights ever.....UNTIL Cus D'Mato passed.....I think after that happened....Tyson just "lost it"....

[fightfan_79]

roy jones....he shouldve been the GOAT........

Love Roy...but he is a more ballsy version of Floyd.....and hey...I love Roy...I have all his DVDs....watched him so much when he fought I loved his intros....and even bought his CD (not proud of that). But he was always self-promoted, didn't really take HUGE risks...but took enough risks to earn the boxing communities respect. IF he was promoted by say....TOP Rank....man...I believe he would've never loss to Tarver....cuz he would've never fought him...hence he would've never loss to Glen Johnson....he probably would've rematched B-Hop and gotten a UD, fought Calzaghe more in his Prime and gotten a TKO via stoppage

[Ryn0]

Joe Calzaghe, one of my favourite fighters he had a great run unified SMW and was champ 10 years against some good almost great fighters, double weight world champ and beat an old but still great Hopkins and a faded Jones.

BUT he didn't come over to America in his physical prime when he had atleast some degree of power, he could have come over earlier faced guys like a Prime RJJ, Hopkins, Toney, Barkley, McCallum, Micahewski (can't spell it), Sturm, Johnson, Woods, Tarver, Hill. The Weight class in and around him were STACKED with the top two P4P fighters their too. Imagine if he had faced and beat them (not saying he would have) his resume would have been 100x greater.

Personally, I blame it to a large degree on Warren.

[paulsinghnl]

Zab, Jermain, James Toney (most of all, cuz he just so damn awesome to watch), but what u guys think about Meldrick Taylor?

[The_Demon]

Joe Calzaghe, one of my favourite fighters he had a great run unified SMW and was champ 10 years against some good almost great fighters, double weight world champ and beat an old but still great Hopkins and a faded Jones.

BUT he didn't come over to America in his physical prime when he had atleast some degree of power, he could have come over earlier faced guys like a Prime RJJ, Hopkins, Toney, Barkley, McCallum, Micahewski (can't spell it), Sturm, Johnson, Woods, Tarver, Hill. The Weight class in and around him were STACKED with the top two P4P fighters their too. Imagine if he had faced and beat them (not saying he would have) his resume would have been 100x greater.

Personally, I blame it to a large degree on Warren.

warren is way to protective of his fighters-and if calzaghe had gone to the olympics things would have been completely different-he had more talent than khan and harrison for example

[marciano207]

Hector Camacho Sr. The drugs destroyed him. He would have been an ATG

[Ryn0]

warren is way to protective of his fighters-and if calzaghe had gone to the olympics things would have been completely different-he had more talent than khan and harrison for example

If he had managed to land a deal with someone like Bob Arum and been trained by Freddie Roach who has a great way of training aggressive fighters he would be a lock for an ATG IMO.

[The_Demon]

If he had managed to land a deal with someone like Bob Arum and been trained by Freddie Roach who has a great way of training aggressive fighters he would be a lock for an ATG IMO.

ye i agree,with his natural speed and aggresiveness roach could have taught him to not get hit so much,incredible staminia and solid chin he would have been something else! its all ifs and buts though

[FeFist]

I'm going to come out and say Mike Tyson, even though he reached a really good level, I still think he fell short of ATG status. He lacked the mental capacity to deal with the fame, this wasn't helped by the people surrounding him.

Also Zab Judah. Blessed with natural ability and the physique for the game, but he is just not there. His head is not in the game. He lacks the warrior edge as far as I'm concerned.

[The_Demon]

I'm going to come out and say Mike Tyson, even though he reached a really good level, I still think he fell short of ATG status. He lacked the mental capacity to deal with the fame, this wasn't helped by the people surrounding him.

Also Zab Judah. Blessed with natural ability and the physique for the game, but he is just not there. His head is not in the game. He lacks the warrior edge as far as I'm concerned.

judah is a great example,his skills were off the chart and had the ability to give any fighter in history problems,but his heart wasnt in it,neither was his head-in comparison to other great fighters