Wladimir would easily beat prime Tua

[joseph5620]

shouldnt compare the ruiz that chageav fought with the green ruiz that fought tua. ruiz fought tua before he adopted the mauling, smothering style that protected his chin. I think ruiz would have won an ugly decision over tua had he fought him a couple years later

Ruiz could never beat Tua even if they fought 100 times. That's why he never wanted a rematch. And the version of Ruiz that Tua fought was a younger fresher fighter with a better style than the one who fought Chagaev. And Tua was just as "green" as Ruiz.

[joseph5620]

age doesnt tell it all dude. if you cant see the difference in wlad then and now I cant help you

The only difference is that Wlad paces himself better now. But that had nothing to do with his loss to Sanders. He couldn't take the punches and that's it. It was a legitimate loss.

[Guest]

The one punch the straight left or the left hook is Wlad's kryptonite.

Sanders and Brewster had those in spades. And so does Tua.


And all three hit very very hard with them.

Wlad has gotten much better dealing with left hands under Manny, but it's not like he faced huge punchers with wicked lefts after either.

[NakiFan]

Idiots like Mr Pink think Tua was awesome, the reality is he was a tubby little fatty who could take a hell of a punch and had a good left hook, and a haircut

[Clegg]

Idiots like Mr Pink think Tua was awesome, the reality is he was a tubby little fatty who could take a hell of a punch and had a good left hook, and a haircut

The fact is that he has a better resume than Chagaev.

One gets called a fat bum, the other is being talked about as if he's something special.

Maybe Chagaev will turn out to be better than he's seemed so far. But an MD over Valuev and an SD over Ruiz cannot be rated above KOing Rahman, Ruiz, Moorer, Izon and Maskaev, no matter how you look at it.

Chag was also taken the distance by Skelton, who has since been knocked out by Martin Rogan. I like Rogan a lot, but he is not world class or even close.

[beez721]

The only difference is that Wlad paces himself better now. But that had nothing to do with his loss to Sanders. He couldn't take the punches and that's it. It was a legitimate loss.

no,,,,,,he uses his jab more. fights taller and moves much more than he used to. steward has improved his fundamentals. he's boringer now,,,but more effective as well

[beez721]

Ruiz could never beat Tua even if they fought 100 times. That's why he never wanted a rematch. And the version of Ruiz that Tua fought was a younger fresher fighter with a better style than the one who fought Chagaev. And Tua was just as "green" as Ruiz.

I wouldnt pick tua to win so much as 10 out of 10 let alone 100 over anyone who could box a bit. much too one dimensional and maybe it was tua that wouldnt rematch ruiz? who knows what went down behind the scenes. ruiz's new style of jab/grab and smother would have given tua problems for sure as it did just about everyone he's faced besides roy jones

[Titing Kabayo]

Tua had never given a chance for title fight again except that with lennox.. Tua will smoke wlad's ass..

[WhoreUs]

Idiots like Mr Pink think Tua was awesome, the reality is he was a tubby little fatty who could take a hell of a punch and had a good left hook, and a haircut

no one ever said tua was a great fighter.

i just like his fights when he was younger.

tua-ibeabuchi made lewis-vitali look amateurish.

david tua was a top 10 ranked fighter for over a decade , ****head.

he KTFO 3 guys who later went on to become champions.

you don't know ****.

[wolfgang]

lol who the hell has Chagaev beat, Tua in his prime would have a good chance of Knocking out Vlad.