If PacMan beats Cotto at 145 or above will you say he was shot or make excuses?

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  • Clint650
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    #11
    Hatton hasnt been the same since Collazo... WW is a popular place, but Pac should return to 135-140. I wish Pac would of came up as hard as JMM did instead of fighting just cash cows.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Clint650
      Hatton hasnt been the same since Collazo... WW is a popular place, but Pac should return to 135-140. I wish Pac would of came up as hard as JMM did instead of fighting just cash cows.
      wtf...

      de la hoya= supposed to get killed
      hatton= undefeated at 140. linear champ
      diaz= not the best 135, but pretty impressive performance nonetheless

      just because marquez' fights were more competetive doesnt mean he fought better opposition. just like pac, marquez was favored to win againts casa and diaz.

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      • whirlwind
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        #13
        Originally posted by KennyWeldon
        Pacquiao should stop being a *****, if he wants to fight at welterweight he needs to stop trying to drain his opponent, dont call out a welterweight and make him come in at jr welter. Pacman needs to stop trying to get advantages and fight the way he used to, for glory, he has turned into a ***** lately, I used to really look up to him.
        When did Pac call out the WW's? Former 106 Pac moved up to fight Sasakul at 112, moved up again to fight Ledwaba at 122 then Barrera at 126 then Morales at 130 then Diaz at 135 then Pac move up 12 lbs to fight Oscar at 147 then moved down again to fight undefeated at 140 Hatton. Where's the ***** move? You sound more of a ***** to me. *****!
        Last edited by whirlwind; 06-15-2009, 12:36 AM.

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        • baracuda
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          #14
          Originally posted by Clint650
          speculation can be fun.

          give me a reason why Valero won't KO Pac @ 135?

          only opinions here.
          heres a reason,because pac will ko him first....

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          • sandyvahra
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            #15
            Didn't Cotto weight 146 this weekend. is 1 lb going to change the outcome of the fight? If you think it is you need to go start watching TLC & drop boxing. The better man will win that night, plain & simple. Cotto is 28 years old 4 crying out loud.

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              #16
              Fight should be at 147. Enough said.

              Cotto is ****** for going any lower. He is going to die.

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                #17
                Just as long as Cotto doesn't come weight drained and has enough time to heal that ugly cut...yes Manny will be closer to beating H Armstrong in the ATG list.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Clint650
                  Hatton hasnt been the same since Collazo... WW is a popular place, but Pac should return to 135-140. I wish Pac would of came up as hard as JMM did instead of fighting just cash cows.
                  As hard as JMM??? aside from his last 2 fights at lightweight...what has been JMM's other most notable win??

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                  • ßringer
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                    #19
                    Hell no. Manny gets full credit.

                    Cotto is nowhere near shot, he just fights like a moron at times. (Using his legs too much, going to the ropes too often, being so easy to hit with the uppercut, refusing to clinch when he's hurt, etc....)

                    Cotto hates come forward fighters, and Manny is that type of fighter. Not to mention he's extremely quick with his combinations.

                    After about 7 rounds, I see "Quitto" showing up once again.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                      As hard as JMM??? aside from his last 2 fights at lightweight...what has been JMM's other most notable win??
                      Barrera. And he should've gotten that win over John that he deserved.

                      Honestly ; Marquez and Pacquiao both came up the hard way, they had to fight for everything they have.

                      Manny fought the bigger names with Barrera and Morales. Which was no cakewalk. (Though he made it look like one, especially with my boy Marco. )

                      But Marquez had to dwindle in obscurity for most of his career, and fight that much harder to become a standout.

                      Which would you say is the harder route to take ; Fighting the very best in the world on a consistent basis, or dwindling in obscurity for an eternity despite your natural talents?

                      I'd say they were both equally rough paths, and they only helped make both men the amazing fighters they are today.

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