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  • #71
    Originally posted by rod_serrs View Post
    So Clottey's skill or abilities had no bearing on Cotto's lackluster performance nor did the cut right. Cotto showed the killer spirit and had a warriors heart in the fight. He was pitted against a very good WW while fighting off adversity and still managed to make a point for a decision win. Cotto is back....period.
    Killer spirit?Warriors Heart?Where?I saw a fighter in survivor mode trying desperately not to lose.True,Clottey could have done more to make his case but nothing of consequence was landed by Cotto.The first round kd was nothing more than a flash and after that Cotto didn't land ****.Gloves,gloves,and more gloves is where his punches landed.Camera don't lie and everyone saw it.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx View Post
      Thrown and landed does'nt matter? Oh I get it only when it's Cotto landing more punches is when it counts. Thanks for filling me in. Whatever happened to guys having a rematch after a close fight? This fight did'nt prove ****.
      how were fights scored before compubox existed?? judges don't even have access to that **** on today's fights

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      • #73
        let me get this right........judges reward a guy who's avoiding the confrontation and swingin' punches that dont connect rounds?!?......so the guy who's pursuing or tryin' to engage in fight while avoiding shots is considered not doing enough to win the round?!?.......HBO gave MOST of you dudes "THE REASON" why Cotto was GIVEN the decision and you people accept it........116-111 was scored by the same judge who had Cotto way ahead of Zab.....everybody thought his score in that fight was bogus even though it wasnt needed because Cotto won by stoppage......the judge who scored it 115-112 scored the Pac-JMM rematch for Pac.......Top Rank judges did their job!!!........Cotto makes Arum more cake than Clottey ever will so you dudes do the math.......the ref was the SAME ref that let Cotto smash Zab's kids without takin' a point........so what does Cotto do in the first round against Clottey......thats right, hit him low..........he slammed him and punched him in the back of the head while his back was to him.......HBO called it ACCIDENTAL but the slow replay shows Cotto threw the punch WHILE Clottey's back was to him after being tangled together.........Clottey turned his back on Cotto while Jim Lampley interviewed him after the fight.......that was a "street" jesture.......PARDON MY BACK!!!!.......thats used to show disrespect to someone.......and Clottey was and still is ANGRY at Cotto for those moves..........it is what it is and I hope Clottey can get a REMATCH.........the politics in boxing have brain-washed the casual fans .........Chavez-Whitaker, DLH-Whitaker, Holmes-Spinks II, and DLH-Sturm smells like Cotto-Clottey.........smell the odors of the TRUTH!!!!!

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        • #74
          Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
          let me get this right........judges reward a guy who's avoiding the confrontation and swingin' punches that dont connect rounds?!?......so the guy who's pursuing or tryin' to engage in fight while avoiding shots is considered not doing enough to win the round?!?.......HBO gave MOST of you dudes "THE REASON" why Cotto was GIVEN the decision and you people accept it........116-111 was scored by the same judge who had Cotto way ahead of Zab.....everybody thought his score in that fight was bogus even though it wasnt needed because Cotto won by stoppage......the judge who scored it 115-112 scored the Pac-JMM rematch for Pac.......Top Rank judges did their job!!!........Cotto makes Arum more cake than Clottey ever will so you dudes do the math.......the ref was the SAME ref that let Cotto smash Zab's kids without takin' a point........so what does Cotto do in the first round against Clottey......thats right, hit him low..........he slammed him and punched him in the back of the head while his back was to him.......HBO called it ACCIDENTAL but the slow replay shows Cotto threw the punch WHILE Clottey's back was to him after being tangled together.........Clottey turned his back on Cotto while Jim Lampley interviewed him after the fight.......that was a "street" jesture.......PARDON MY BACK!!!!.......thats used to show disrespect to someone.......and Clottey was and still is ANGRY at Cotto for those moves..........it is what it is and I hope Clottey can get a REMATCH.........the politics in boxing have brain-washed the casual fans .........Chavez-Whitaker, DLH-Whitaker, Holmes-Spinks II, and DLH-Sturm smells like Cotto-Clottey.........smell the odors of the TRUTH!!!!!
          thats probably one of the lamest argument after your favorite fighter defeat.
          first you cant blame cotto because of the scorecards, he won. not as wide as 116-111 but he def won. i am not mad at the 114-113 clottey because it could have been like that with a couple of really close rds. CLottey is no angel bro he headbutted , elbowed, grabbed and leaned over cotto a couple of times. it was a close fight for sure but the better man won dont let a scorecard take away from Cottos victory. it was a great night for boxing

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          • #75
            Originally posted by xAUGUSTUSx View Post
            It's not about not knowing how. It's hard to adapt in the ring like that. Clottey likes to cover up and take punches on his arms. That **** makes your legs heavy later on. So when Cotto started sprinting Clottey had a hard time chasing. Like I said if you've evr been in the ring before you would know that it's hard to adapt in that situation. Cotto started the fight backpedaling that was hiss style most of the fight. Once you start backpedaling it's easy to do later in the fight.
            damn u really are bitter.clottey didnt do enough,he was the challenger fighing a guy who was cut and vision in his right eye was gone,he cant compain about the decision as it was his fault he lost and there will be no rematch

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            • #76
              Originally posted by RRICAN View Post
              thats probably one of the lamest argument after your favorite fighter defeat.
              first you cant blame cotto because of the scorecards, he won. not as wide as 116-111 but he def won. i am not mad at the 114-113 clottey because it could have been like that with a couple of really close rds. CLottey is no angel bro he headbutted , elbowed, grabbed and leaned over cotto a couple of times. it was a close fight for sure but the better man won dont let a scorecard take away from Cottos victory. it was a great night for boxing
              whatever man.........we probably generations apart anyways.........I'm close to the new 20 and you sound like a highschool freshman.........lift some vocabulary weights and come back with a stronger post.......that was weak.....str8 up my dude!!

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              • #77
                Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
                whatever man.........we probably generations apart anyways.........I'm close to the new 20 and you sound like a highschool freshman.........lift some vocabulary weights and come back with a stronger post.......that was weak.....str8 up my dude!!
                Just because Clottey won his rounds more impressively does not mean he won the fight. For better or worse, that's not how scoring a boxing fight works. This has nothing to do with politics man you're crying foul with absolutely nothing to stand on. It was close as hell, 114-113 for either fighter was fine. Cotto got the nod, stop complaining.

                Clottey dominating rounds 7-9 gave people the false impression that he was dominating the fight. Cotto edged out 11 and 12, and he won rounds 1,3,4,and 6....all but 6 were close. But that's how boxing works, because you win a round more clearly doesn't mean you get more points for it, this misconception is making people cry robbery when they have no business crying robbery.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                  Just because Clottey won his rounds more impressively does not mean he won the fight. For better or worse, that's not how scoring a boxing fight works. This has nothing to do with politics man you're crying foul with absolutely nothing to stand on. It was close as hell, 114-113 for either fighter was fine. Cotto got the nod, stop complaining.

                  Clottey dominating rounds 7-9 gave people the false impression that he was dominating the fight. Cotto edged out 11 and 12, and he won rounds 1,3,4,and 6....all but 6 were close. But that's how boxing works, because you win a round more clearly doesn't mean you get more points for it, this misconception is making people cry robbery when they have no business crying robbery.
                  I understand what you sayin' but Arum talkin' Cotto-Pac before Clottey and Cotto even weighed-in is kind of suspect........the decision had NOTHING to do with boxing......it was BUSINESS..........and my heart is still broke so let me keep cryin' .......and please don't think I'm a Cotto hater........I dont get down like that!!!

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
                    I understand what you sayin' but Arum talkin' Cotto-Pac before Clottey and Cotto even weighed-in is kind of suspect........the decision had NOTHING to do with boxing......it was BUSINESS..........and my heart is still broke so let me keep cryin' .......and please don't think I'm a Cotto hater........I dont get down like that!!!
                    Haha, I hear you. I would probably be doin the same thing if the fight went to Clottey, but at least you acknowledge that emotions for the time being are getting in the way of being rational. Happens to the best of us.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
                      whatever man.........we probably generations apart anyways.........I'm close to the new 20 and you sound like a highschool freshman.........lift some vocabulary weights and come back with a stronger post.......that was weak.....str8 up my dude!!
                      i am sorry that the truth hurt you. 114-113 cotto thats how i had it. wanna know why your boy lost ..you cant win a championship belt giving away the closing rds. specially after the knockdown in the first. thats the only reason he lost if there was no knockdown it was a tie. oh and by the way i know about this sport being a fan for over 15 yrs , buddy

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