Ray Mercer Knocks Tim Sylvia Out in Nine Seconds

[sunthunder]

To be honest, I think this fight says more about Sylvia's propensity for getting clocked early in fights than it does for any over-arching boxing vs mma argument. There are still far more incidents of boxers being beaten in MMA than this one.

Yoshihiro Akiyama (185lb fighter) easily submitted Francois Botha
Kimbo submitted Mercer
Royce Gracie > Jimmerson
Renzo Gracie > James Warring
Nishijima got finished in all of his MMA bouts

A boxer with KO power will always have a chance, all fights start standing.

[shadeyfizzle]

Competed at a world class level. You're obviously ****** for thinking that. Rampage, Sherk, Griffin and MANY, MANY others come from either high school wrestling backgrounds, or average collegiate/JUCO schools where they wrestled. Some were good BJJ practitioners, very few were actually decent or even good strikers. And most of the MMA'ers now dont come from any specific background. They have simply learned as they go at MMA gyms which is not the way to go which is likely why the product is so bad.

The point is, many argued that MMA is its own style, which its clearly not and the transition to MMA from other combat sports is not rocket science.

Ok. That I can agree with. But there is still no such thing as an MMA'er. The whole argument i've been making the whole time is that to make the MMA vs boxer comparison is complete bull**** because in actuality there is no such thing as an MMA'er. to come to the conclusion that boxing >MMA because someone that is not a boxer deciding to stand and trade with a former world champion and getting knocked out would be the equivalent of someone coming to the conclusion that wrestling > boxing because Vlad decides to grapple with olympic gold medalist kurt angle and gets slammed repeatedly over the course of 12 mins. It doesnt prove anything because there is no neutral ground with it. 1 will be excellent at what they do while the other wouldnt know the 1st thing about it.

[mrpain81]

[pugilistfan]

To be honest, I think this fight says more about Sylvia's propensity for getting clocked early in fights than it does for any over-arching boxing vs mma argument. There are still far more incidents of boxers being beaten in MMA than this one.

Yoshihiro Akiyama (185lb fighter) easily submitted Francois Botha
Kimbo submitted Mercer
Royce Gracie > Jimmerson
Renzo Gracie > James Warring
Nishijima got finished in all of his MMA bouts

A boxer with KO power will always have a chance, all fights start standing.

Those are all just terrible examples.

[pistol whip]

Those are all just terrible examples.

Thats because we have yet to have an elite boxer fight an elite Mixed Martial Artist.

Tim Silvia was always a C+ fighter at best in the UFC and he won his title in the weakest division in the UFC behind a boring ***ing jab. Most people arn't suprised Mercer beat him and the only ******s that are making a big deal about it are die hard boxing fans who "care" way to much.

[Elemental Fist]

Same thing will happen if its elite vs elite... And Mercer is OLD AS ****...Hahahahaha

Another FAIL for MMA....

Mercer was chocked by Kimbo who lost to a TUF reject.

Also, lol at boxing fanboys trying to make excuses for Mercer losing to Kimbo since they're calling MMA fanboys making excuses for Sylvia losing. Hypocrites.

a world class boxer will ALWAYS have a legit punchers chance in MMA but an MMA fighter has absolutely no chance in boxing

Isn't Alexander Ustinov, a former kickboxer and MMA fighter, the current Current EBA (European Boxing Association) heavyweight champion since his boxing debut in 2006?

And Jens Pulver currently has a 5-0 record, yes it's not that impressive but you said no MMA fighter has a chance in boxing, right?

And boxers like former IBF Cruiserweight Champion James Warring fought in MMA and haven't won a single MMA belt.

Does this mean MMA > Boxing? No, just if the fighter has the determination, he will go somewhere.

Oh yeah, those who enjoy calling MMGAY and trying to make this fight look like a victory for Boxing, they are just as much as dumb fanboys just like the UFC fanboys who keep saying Boxing is Dying.

[Elemental Fist]

It's 100% true! MMGay guys can't punch for ****. They don't want to spar enough. They would much rather spend their time shirtless, gay'n it up on the mats. That's an indisputable fact and it shows...

Seriously, you guys compare MMA to gay **** way to many times especially when you could say the same thing about Olympic wrestling.

I said it before and I'll say it again,

Boxing and MMA fanboys may follow 2 different combat sports but they share the same amount of pathetic attention whoring elitist attitude towards each other and therefore are just trolls among their communities.

[Talon]

kimbo faught like a mother****er against mercer. his boxiing was very good. mercer was trying to counter and landed one good uppercut but it didnt hurt kimbo. kimbo went to the body when ray was picking off his head shots. kimbo IS good at boxing, and destroyed mercer.

seemed like james thompson was a huge challenge for kimbo.

sylvia sucks, this isnt an accomplishment really. kinda is but i think mercer should adjust his style to be more like kimbo. rush forward instead of backing up and trying to counter.. its like saying whos style would be better in mma tysons or mayweathers

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Boxing and MMA fanboys may follow 2 different combat sports but they share the same amount of pathetic attention whoring elitist attitude towards each other and therefore are just trolls among their communities."

i agree. a lot of boxers dont give mma enough credit and a lot of mma dont give boxing its credit

[hugh grant]

Shows how overestimated MMA stars are. Not evolved since bruce lee at all. Bruce would beat any lightweight to heavyweight UFC fighter.

[shadeyfizzle]

Shows how overestimated MMA stars are. Not evolved since bruce lee at all. Bruce would beat any lightweight to heavyweight UFC fighter.

No he wouldnt. He'd only beat the ******s dumb enough to stay standing with him.