James Toney - What Was at Stake?

[Eyeh8you]

Toney definately has a chance against Ruiz. You can't sit there and tell me Ruiz is so good he can't be beaten by Toney. Ruiz is slow and loves to hold pull and wear down but can be hurt by punches. Even Roy wobbled him a couple of times. Toney can hurt him by getting on the inside of his punches and chop him down. We all know that Ruiz doesn't put enough punches together to really be an offensive threat to Toney. I belive Toney would win by 9th round TKO.

Byrd will be tougher because he moves very quickly for a heavyweight but he still would have to move in at somepoint to land punches. But Toney putting extra pressure on Byrd and work both the body and the head he could pull this one out. Byrd can still be hurt and would try and fight Toney from the outside. Byrd would trying to get a better lead would exchange with Toney too often and start to wear down. This would be a close bout that would be decided by a split decision victory for Toney.

Yes, Vitali would be the biggest test and he should be he is champ. But this fight would still be close. I'm sorry but you guys that think Vitali is gonna just mop the floor with Toney are dead wrong. This will be a tactical fight. Toney does not have one punch knockout power but the man can hurt fighters when they are careless. I can see this one going into the late rounds. If this one goes past 8 rounds Toney's chances for victory greatly increase. Tony by SD

well I respect your oppinion but don't agree w/it. However, you know what? The sad truth is James Toney will never ever face VK. Im telling you this now and I've said it many times before. He is too old and definetley injury prone. His next fight certainly won't be VK so think about it his camp say he's cleared for a fight in Feburary. Hes still got the cast on now? OK so the end of Feb. That means some D level fighter again. And I gaurentee if he wins he'll be injured again. Im tellin you we will not see JT fight VK or RUIZ or Byrd at all in 2005 .MARK MY WORDS!

[FistoftheDallasStar]

well I respect your oppinion but don't agree w/it. However, you know what? The sad truth is James Toney will never ever face VK. Im telling you this now and I've said it many times before. He is too old and definetley injury prone. His next fight certainly won't be VK so think about it his camp say he's cleared for a fight in Feburary. Hes still got the cast on now? OK so the end of Feb. That means some D level fighter again. And I gaurentee if he wins he'll be injured again. Im tellin you we will not see JT fight VK or RUIZ or Byrd at all in 2005 .MARK MY WORDS!

Good point. Toney is getting older and the window is closing rapidly, but that just adds to the drama of boxing. You might be right but I hope not. I'm hoping for some heavyweight excitement in the next year because its been boring me to tears lately.

[Neuraxis]

Toney definately has a chance against Ruiz. You can't sit there and tell me Ruiz is so good he can't be beaten by Toney. Ruiz is slow and loves to hold pull and wear down but can be hurt by punches. Even Roy wobbled him a couple of times. Toney can hurt him by getting on the inside of his punches and chop him down. We all know that Ruiz doesn't put enough punches together to really be an offensive threat to Toney. I belive Toney would win by 9th round TKO.

Byrd will be tougher because he moves very quickly for a heavyweight but he still would have to move in at somepoint to land punches. But Toney putting extra pressure on Byrd and work both the body and the head he could pull this one out. Byrd can still be hurt and would try and fight Toney from the outside. Byrd would trying to get a better lead would exchange with Toney too often and start to wear down. This would be a close bout that would be decided by a split decision victory for Toney.

Yes, Vitali would be the biggest test and he should be he is champ. But this fight would still be close. I'm sorry but you guys that think Vitali is gonna just mop the floor with Toney are dead wrong. This will be a tactical fight. Toney does not have one punch knockout power but the man can hurt fighters when they are careless. I can see this one going into the late rounds. If this one goes past 8 rounds Toney's chances for victory greatly increase. Tony by SD

That's great and all, but while you explained how you thought Toney could beat Byrd and Ruiz, you failed to say what Toney was going to do to beat Vitali. I think that you failed to say so because its not gonna happen.

[phallus]

i think tha boi's tryin to say Toney will outland him and score a points decision, which i can see happening

[whdempsey]

And your a oney scrotum sailor so the inniverse evens out!

Shut the **** up. This is my thread. You don't like it, go find a way to bugger yourself.

Everything else you posted on thie thread was good, by the way. But coming on here and insulting me with nonsensical laguage is unacceptable.

[whdempsey]

Dempsey - You seem to have somehow lost your mind on this one.

His "great chance to unify the division" would probably start with Ruiz, who would mug him and get the decision. It's perfectly impossible that Toney would frustrate Ruiz into quitting, because Ruiz doesn't care. It's perfectly possible that Toney would get frustrated and take a big ****ing swing, not a push, and connect afger the bell. Down goes Ruiz, who lays there, gets the DQ.

Your right, he'd beat Lamon and very likely Byrd.

Vitali wouldn't need the uppercut against Toney. James wants guys to come to him, especially now that he's puffed up on juice so badly. Vitali can stand back while Toney leans on the ropes and "pops" Toney at will. Toney's short tight little juiced-up arms will be on the outside whiffing the air, all night long. Oops, did I say long? I guess Vitali by TKO within 7 isn't really a long night.

Toney talks big, but Vitali is big.

Why the **** are you gonna insult me on my own damn thread? Tell me I lost my mind and ****. That's just disrespectful.

All it takes is one good ref for Ruiz to lose. If Jay Nady gets the assignment, Ruiz ends up punking out. If Steve Smoger gets the assignment, Ruiz gets DQ'd for being an ******* and choosing a bad corner. If Lawrence Cole gets the assignment, then I agree, Toney at some point pulls out a gun and gets DQ'd. But don't act like Toney is more suseptible to getting disqualified than "******man" Ruiz.

Toney being juiced is a sick little fantasy of yours that will never come true. Toney slips, rolls his shoulder and gets inside Klitschko's reach and avoids laying back on the ropes. Watch Toney when he's attacking Jirov or Holyfield. He has a fantastic offense. You can blow him off all you want, but the fact of the matter is he has a damn good chance to unify the division.

You disagreeable ****.

[BrooklynBomber]

Every time Toney will try to get within a close range withVitaly he will get hurt. Besides lost couple of fights he tended to stay on ropes too much. As somebody pointed it out this will do it no good against Vitaly. Besides did Toney ever fought somebody with Vitaly's power. Holyfield never had one punch KO power and I dont know what Booker is doing in boxing, he clearly should do someting else.