Floyd Is The Same Size As These Guys?

[johnle43]

Theres a division for small WWs, its call JWWs,

Fact!!!!!!!

triple co-sign!

[DLT]

Floyd lives a healthy lifestyle, he's a gymrat. Guys like him & bernard don't put on much weight between fights. Floyd can drain himself all he likes, if he doesn't feel he's a true 147lber go down. You wont get **** on for that, but you will get **** on for fighting at 147 and sidestepping the top dawgs. Bottom line if your the best, fight the godamn best in the weightclass which you fight, otherwise go down and fight the best at another weight class.

We'll disagree on the next point, he's as insecure as they come and wouldn't be able to handle a loss.

Youre right about Hopkins but its apples & oranges. Floyd is just small. Hopkins purposley didnt put on weight because he was a big guy and if he gained weight then he would be scared that he couldnt take it off or it would kill his body. Unlike Floyd, Hopkins always put on a good amout of weight on fight night. Also, you saw how Hopkins left MW and jumped straight to LHW. Not only did he got straight there but he looked like a big guy at that weight and was very healthy. Its night & day to compare the 2. Hopkins had to stay small because he was a big guy. Floyd is just small anyways

[sandyvahra]

Youre right about Hopkins but its apples & oranges. Floyd is just small. Hopkins purposley didnt put on weight because he was a big guy and if he gained weight then he would be scared that he couldnt take it off or it would kill his body. Unlike Floyd, Hopkins always put on a good amout of weight on fight night. Also, you saw how Hopkins left MW and jumped straight to LHW. Not only did he got straight there but he looked like a big guy at that weight and was very healthy. Its night & day to compare the 2. Hopkins had to stay small because he was a big guy. Floyd is just small anyways

Hopkins went straight to lhw with the help of mackie shilstone. he put on actual muscle mass. how many years had hopkins made 160 for? had nothing to do with him being scared of putting on weight it was more his lifestyle. always in the gym, always running. it's hard to put on weight with that kind of lifestyle. floyds the same, he's just in shape year round so its hard for him to put on weight. floyd aint the biggest guy, but at the end of the day whichever weight you fight at you need to fight the best period. he's been at 147 for how long now? yet he's a small ww and couldnt go to 140 to fight jmm? c'mon man that's got nothing to do with his size, it's him just trying to get the most advantages vs. an opponent he has all the advantages against to begin with. at the end of the day if your too big or too small for a weightclass adjust godamn accordingly, but dont sit around n call up guys from other divisions or make catchweights or contradict yourself from fight to fight. its disgusting as a fan and an insult to the pioneers of the sport.

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Come on now. Did you just see the Cotto-Clottey pics? They easily look atleast 1 weight class bigger than Floyd and the thing is that this is when theyre weight drained. Floyd doesnt even gain weight while they will look even bigger tomorrow. By then they will look atleast 2 weight classes bigger. Seriously, all flaming aside. Theyre is no comparison between Floyd and the WW's. He just fights there. He could have his next 5 fights at 154 but that wouldnt make him a 154 pounder. How can he be a WW when he's fighting at his weighin weight? He's the only guy in boxing doing that. Youre trying to tell me that you can fight at your best like that and that those matchups are fair. That is why Floyd is the guy everyone wants to fight. They know that they can make by far theyre biggest pay day with him, they will get mad cred for beating the #1 guy in the game, and its a very winnable fight due to his size. All the WW's feel that he is too small for them, they can walk through all his punches, and all he can do is pot shot against them. While at the same time all the guys from the lower weights always say that they wont fight any other WW but they will fight Floyd because they dont beleive he is a real WW. The pics dont lie, the numbers dont lie, the facts dont lie.

I love how everyone is saying that JMM wont be the same at that weight. Like Floyd is? Everyone on here says that he's not the same guy he was in the lower weights, all he does is pot shot now, he's super boring, and he's much slower. Floyd isnt the same guy at WW that he is at the other weights so how come you dont care when he's doing it but now you care when its JMM? Truthfully you have to admit that he is not capable of being his best. He's the only guy in boxing you can say that about. If Cotto walks around at 175 and fought at MW let alone LHW, you know he would not be at his best. No one looks the same when they fight at there normal weight and thats why no one else in boxing is doing it. No one. Even look at the great Pac. He put on a show against Oscar but I think we can all agree that he didnt look as good in that fight as he did at LW & 140 and the reason is that it was the only fight where he didnt really gain any weight after the weigh-in. Youre going to lose something when you do that and yet Floyd does that every single fight. You think Cotto is not going to fight like the best Cotto? They dont hold back anything but Floyd has to. If you let Floyd go back to 140 right now then he looks night & day different. I think JMM & Pac have a better chance to beat him the higher the weight goes because Floyd is that small. He will look much crisper at 140. He will be much faster, fluid, and would never pot shot. It slows you down.

I remember Roach saying that Floyd could easily fight at 140 but he's just lazy. I laughed that off because we all know that Floyd isnt lazy but now Im starting to really 2nd guess that. I dont think he's lazy but I think he wants his cake & eat it too. I think he does want everything to just be comfortable right now. He shouldve went back down to 140 after the Oscar fight. Hopefully with the layoff Floyd has gained weight. Its obvious that no one is going to give him credit for the JMM fight anyways so I wish he would come in the ring at 152 pounds or more. That will tell me that he is finally bigger but Im not banking on it. Still, I think he ruined alot of his career by moving up. The media & fans hate him so much that they judge him like he is really a big guy so they rip him for not fighting them while at the same time he's also being downplayed on his overall skills. If he wouldve stayed at LW & 140 longer then people would be looking at him totally different. Then would think that he truly is one of the most amazing fighters to ever come around with his speed, top notch D, wide array of Offensive variety, and he would be alot more exciting with more KO's. Now he's just settled into fighting at WW. Even if he retires undefeated he still will never look as good in those fights as he couldve. I think he might will against JMM & Pac because theyre guys really near his size and it will be at a lower weight but I think he wont get as much credit for it.

People will always look at guys like SRL as better fighters but thats only because they are like everyone else who is fighting today. They are fighting at there top form. Floyd isnt doing that because he wants to stay at WW. If he was at LW or 140 you would see a totally different fighter who couldve had a killer resume of JMM, Pac, MAB, EM, Campbell, Guzman, Bradley, and so on. Who wouldve beat him? Not only would he have won but he wouldve done it in exciting fashion. He probably wouldve just overwhelmed all those guys, knocked them all out, and looked exciting in doing it. Then everyone would judge him different. Instead now he's going ot have to fight guys who everyone thinks he's the same size as but theyre really 15 pounds or more bigger in the ring, 30 pounds or more bigger outside the ring, will look 1 weight class bigger inside the ring, and naturally they will look 2 weight classes bigger. Again, he will probably still win every fight but he wont look anywhere near as good in doing it as he wouldve at his natural weights and that will really hurt his legacy. Its like if Aaron Pryor wouldve fogught alot of his career at WW and 154. He still wouldve won a ton of fights but he wouldnt have been the same guy. It changes everything.

Floyd never had to move up. Ever since he left 130 he has been P4P the smallest guy in boxing. He was the smallest guy in every weight he fought at after that, yet he moved up to chase Oscar. After that he shouldve went back down to his normal weight and maybe move back up to WW when he's older & bigger but he stayed theyre and his legacy is forever ruined. No one will give him the benefit of doubt and like I said, even if he beats the WW's, he wont look as good in doing it as guys like SRL and stuff so people will call him overrated. You have alot of guys on here who say it now. They dont think he looks special. There's a reason for that. He's not himself. He's not the full fledge Floyd. If he was down at 140 or LW then it would be night & day. He would be fighting guys his own size like eveyrone else in boxing is doing and he would look like a class or 2 even over the best fighters in the game. He blew it and his ****** responses never help him. He doesnt even know how to defend himself. Everytime he tries to defend himself, he says exactly what the haterz say about him and they along with the media will make his legacy. The bottom line is that if he had stayed at LW & 140 for a long time like he did 130 then we would be talking about him totally different. He would still be undefeated and his skill level would look so dominant that everyone would be calling him one of the greatest ever. I think he wouldve passed RJ in alot of ways because he would be more complete and fundemental. He wouldve had a ton of fights like Gatti against guys who the media love. You think he wouldnt straight up destroy a guy like Bradley at 140 if he was there? Bradley wouldnt land a single punch the whole fight and would get KO

[nycbgdogg]

that is so much apples & oranges that its not even funny. how can you compare the 2 when HW has no limit? BTW, at the end of Tyson's career alot of people were talking about it. Manny Steward always said that Tyson was way too small to beat Lewis and he still talks about how the HW's are so big now that they should break it into 2 divisions. The HW and Super HW division because big guys back in the day were only 215 while nowdays they are 245-260

The point is PBF fights at the WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION which is 147 and likes to consider himself the "creme de la creme" of all boxing... How can anyone complain about him fighting other WELTERWEIGHTS?????

If PBF cant hang at 147 then he should move down rather than having fighters move up two weight divisions just so he can claim he's the best at that division.

[Jim Jeffries]

Floyd. Too small for welterweight, too big for junior welterweight. As if 17 divisions weren't enough, Floyd creates his own.

And yeah, Floyd's tiny, LOL.







Why do the same people that claim Floyd is the greatest fighter to ever lace up a pair of gloves say he's incapable of fighting only 17 pounds above where he turned pro, what? 12 years ago?

[karrapato]

FLoys is a small WW

He can fight WWs just 'cause of his Style.

[Jim Jeffries]

FLoys is a small WW

He can fight WWs just 'cause of his Style.

So when is he going to fight some?

[mathed]

Floyd is a small welterweight.

FACT

then he should be fighting at lightweight if he can't handle actual welters, just stating my opinion not trying to hate.

[-Hyperion-]

lol @ the essays............