Floyd Is The Same Size As These Guys?

[nycbgdogg]

Tyson was probably out weighed and out-sized in every single fight he had but I've yet heard not one compaint.... A heavyweght is a heavyweight and a welter is a welter... These constant PBF apologists are annoying.

[DLT]

Tyson was probably out weighed and out-sized in every single fight he had but I've yet heard not one compaint.... A heavyweght is a heavyweight and a welter is a welter... These constant PBF apologists are annoying.

that is so much apples & oranges that its not even funny. how can you compare the 2 when HW has no limit? BTW, at the end of Tyson's career alot of people were talking about it. Manny Steward always said that Tyson was way too small to beat Lewis and he still talks about how the HW's are so big now that they should break it into 2 divisions. The HW and Super HW division because big guys back in the day were only 215 while nowdays they are 245-260

[DLT]

Floyd is not a Welterweight, Welterweights such as Cotto,Clottey,Margo,Shane,PWill all weight around 160 at fight night. Floyd still weighs 147 at fight night. If he was fighting one of those guys he would give up a ton of weight. Now Floyd is fighting JMM at 147 and not 140 because he has a larger advantage their:
1). He's bigger than JMM
2). He's fought at this weight many times; JMM doesn't haven't have any experience fighting at such a weight.
3). Since he is a bigger draw than JMM he can dictate the weight so why not take as big of an advantage as you can get...
4). He's not a risk taker, and is very unlikely to fight against an evenly matched opponent nowdays when he can force little guys to fight him.

Now whether or not you think it's fair that he is forcing JMM to fight at such a disadvantage is up to you. On a personal note I'd like Floyd to fight JMM at 140 but alas what can you do… I really wish they would go back to the days when you weighed in the day of the fight it would settle a lot of this hoopla in my opinion.

3 reasons why I think Floyd wont come down to fight JMM. 1 is I saw an older article where he talked about if a guy has been off for a long period and tries to come back then he will find out that its much harder to make weight now then it was before. Maybe thats why he was scared to go down to 140 for his 1st fight. The 2nd reason is what I talked about in the article about what Roach said. I think he is kind of lazy. Not in the workout sense but he does want it easy for him in terms of losing weight. I think he feels like if he stays the way he is now then he will have a healthy life after boxing unlike others.

3rd and the main reason why I dont think he wants to come down is that he really is going to fight the WW's. I keep telling people this. Cotto and those other guys cant make 140 but if they could then it would be easier for them to do it because they can go straight back to WW and still be big at that weight. I think if it was about 1 or 2 fights then Floyd would come down to 140 and fight them without a problem but he's looking at the big picture. I think he feels that if he comes down to 140 then it will hurt him badly when he tries to go back to WW. He's already small now. If he goes down and comes back up then it may be a shock to his system. Not really the weight itself but the fighters. I have always said that I would pick him over Mosley right now without a doubt but if he went down to 140 and came back then I could definatly see Mosley being too powerful for him and beating him. He would definatly have to have a fight against a guy like Berto 1st. Thats why he doesnt want to come down. I really think he is going to fight Mosley after Pac. I truly think he wants Mosley. Cotto is a different deal. I think he would fight Clottey also if he kept winning but Cotto's style is bad for him just like Margarito's is because they can bully him with there size. Clottey & Mosley are big but they wont bully you like Cotto or Margarito could. Thats why I dont think he really wants to fight them. He knows he would have to run & pot shot all night

[Easy-E]

Theres a division for small WWs, its call JWWs,

Fact!!!!!!!

There is a division for fighters who come into fight night at 154+. It's called junior middleweight.

[floydjoy]

floyd is same size as pacqyiao

[DLT]

Nope doesn't matter one bit to me. If youre a small WW drop 7lbs and to jr. WW. It's really that simple to me. no need for this 144 BS, go to 140. If you choose to fight at 147 then that's what you choose as best for you, as other fighters do for them. Its your decision right.

You can argue it's an advantage for floyd as he doesn;t have to kill himself as much as these other bigger WW's do to make the weight. He can eat more, be healthier, etc. At the end of the day if you both weight the same 36 hours before the fight your the same size for the weight class you fight in. If you dont like it change to same day weigh ins.

you can say what you want but you know if he went down in weigh then you would call him a *****. Also, how can you act like its no big deal when he is the only guy in boxing doing it. Stop acting like alot of guys do it or its no big deal. He's the only guy who is fighting at his walk around weight and he's the only guy who doesnt put on any weight after the weigh-in. How can you act like thats normal or that it doesnt matter? It has to matter somewhere. Again, I think Floyd beats every guy at WW & 154 even with the lack of size but would it be terribly shocking if he lost? I remember when Karmazin was on top, I said that everyone knows that Floyd is clearly P4P way better than Karmazin but would it be totally shocking to see Floyd lose to him? What would that really mean though? I think thats where Floyd stands.

He doesnt mind losing but if he loses then he wants it to be because someone was better than him, not just because they were too big for him to do anything with. He would kill himself if he lost to a guy like Margarito who has no skills only because dude was way bigger and Floyd had to pot shot and run all night. He doesnt want to lose like that. Thats why he will fight a guy like Pac who is his same size, way better than Margarito, and is the #1 guy in the game but he's hesitant to fight those guys who will beat him just because of size. I mean you can say what you want about Floyd-JMM but even if there is a size advantage, you cant just downright say that Floyd won only because of size because we all know that his skill level is so high. If Margarito beat Floyd then you would strictly have to put it on the size and thats it

[Brandish]

Floyd never had to move up. Ever since he left 130 he has been P4P the smallest guy in boxing. He was the smallest guy in every weight he fought at after that, yet he moved up to chase Oscar. After that he shouldve went back down to his normal weight and maybe move back up to WW when he's older & bigger but he stayed theyre and his legacy is forever ruined. No one will give him the benefit of doubt and like I said, even if he beats the WW's, he wont look as good in doing it as guys like SRL and stuff so people will call him overrated. You have alot of guys on here who say it now. They dont think he looks special. There's a reason for that. He's not himself. He's not the full fledge Floyd. If he was down at 140 or LW then it would be night & day. He would be fighting guys his own size like eveyrone else in boxing is doing and he would look like a class or 2 even over the best fighters in the game. He blew it and his ****** responses never help him. He doesnt even know how to defend himself. Everytime he tries to defend himself, he says exactly what the haterz say about him and they along with the media will make his legacy. The bottom line is that if he had stayed at LW & 140 for a long time like he did 130 then we would be talking about him totally different. He would still be undefeated and his skill level would look so dominant that everyone would be calling him one of the greatest ever. I think he wouldve passed RJ in alot of ways because he would be more complete and fundemental. He wouldve had a ton of fights like Gatti against guys who the media love. You think he wouldnt straight up destroy a guy like Bradley at 140 if he was there? Bradley wouldnt land a single punch the whole fight and would get KO

all floyd has to do is keep winning doesn't matter how he looks nobody will remeber how he beat them they will remeber that he got that W though

[Burner]

No one can deny Floyd is a small WW....its his skills that allow him to compete aginst bigger men....buthes smal for 147 pounds.

[DLT]

all floyd has to do is keep winning doesn't matter how he looks nobody will remeber how he beat them they will remeber that he got that W though

They will give him his props and give him his due for the era but I think when they stack him up against guys like SRL, Hearns, and so on like they always do, then he wont look as good as them. Its like for some reason I think they will remember them at WW and Floyd at WW even though its there 1st divsion & they look very natural and its his 4th divison and he looks very unatural. You even here people talk about it now. When they compare them they always do it basically WW for WW even though its so unfair to look at it that way. its much more fair to do it in a P4P sense. Like them at WW vs Floyd at 130 and so on

[sandyvahra]

you can say what you want but you know if he went down in weigh then you would call him a *****. Also, how can you act like its no big deal when he is the only guy in boxing doing it. Stop acting like alot of guys do it or its no big deal. He's the only guy who is fighting at his walk around weight and he's the only guy who doesnt put on any weight after the weigh-in. How can you act like thats normal or that it doesnt matter? It has to matter somewhere. Again, I think Floyd beats every guy at WW & 154 even with the lack of size but would it be terribly shocking if he lost? I remember when Karmazin was on top, I said that everyone knows that Floyd is clearly P4P way better than Karmazin but would it be totally shocking to see Floyd lose to him? What would that really mean though? I think thats where Floyd stands.

He doesnt mind losing but if he loses then he wants it to be because someone was better than him, not just because they were too big for him to do anything with. He would kill himself if he lost to a guy like Margarito who has no skills only because dude was way bigger and Floyd had to pot shot and run all night. He doesnt want to lose like that. Thats why he will fight a guy like Pac who is his same size, way better than Margarito, and is the #1 guy in the game but he's hesitant to fight those guys who will beat him just because of size. I mean you can say what you want about Floyd-JMM but even if there is a size advantage, you cant just downright say that Floyd won only because of size because we all know that his skill level is so high. If Margarito beat Floyd then you would strictly have to put it on the size and thats it

Floyd lives a healthy lifestyle, he's a gymrat. Guys like him & bernard don't put on much weight between fights. Floyd can drain himself all he likes, if he doesn't feel he's a true 147lber go down. You wont get **** on for that, but you will get **** on for fighting at 147 and sidestepping the top dawgs. Bottom line if your the best, fight the godamn best in the weightclass which you fight, otherwise go down and fight the best at another weight class.

We'll disagree on the next point, he's as insecure as they come and wouldn't be able to handle a loss.