wtf didnt jcc fight aaron pryor?

[El Jesus]

legendary nights had footage of pryor calling ray out face to face. no myth in that

What thread stealer is referencing is the fact that in reality, ray leonard had no real reason to fight him with bigger fights on the horizon thats why. Its like asking why mayweather didint fight margarito.


This topic is the eqivelent of "why didint JCC fight terry norris" what *** for?

[Thread Stealer]

legendary nights had footage of pryor calling ray out face to face. no myth in that

That doesn't mean much. Why does everyone make a big deal out of press conference "call-outs"?? That's not where fights are made. That's exactly what I'm saying about Legendary Nights myths.

Pryor turned down the fight. You can argue that Leonard "low-balled" Pryor by only offering $500k, seeing as that Pryor made a lot more than that against Arguello, but that's still a lot more than Pryor had made up to that point.

Besides, Pryor wasn't even fighting in the same division at the time.

[skullduggery]

That doesn't mean much. Why does everyone make a big deal out of press conference "call-outs"?? That's not where fights are made. That's exactly what I'm saying about Legendary Nights myths.

Pryor turned down the fight. You can argue that Leonard "low-balled" Pryor by only offering $500k, seeing as that Pryor made a lot more than that against Arguello, but that's still a lot more than Pryor had made up to that point.

Besides, Pryor wasn't even fighting in the same division at the time.

neither was ray when he fought hagler. that didnt stop him did it? the point is if u do something like low-ball ur opponent knowing he wont take it, its just like saying no all together.

[Thread Stealer]

neither was ray when he fought hagler. that didnt stop him did it? the point is if u do something like low-ball ur opponent knowing he wont take it, its just like saying no all together.

Half a million is no peanuts for a guy who made around $40,000 for winning the title.

There's no guarantee that a guy's who just made $40k for winning a title is going to turn down half a million a year later.

Again, press conference "call-outs" mean little except to cause boxing fans to get hard-ons that result in blue balls. A real call-out is in negotiations.

Pryor turned that offer down and also messed him his chance at a Duran fight due to managerial problems.

[El Jesus]

That doesn't mean much. Why does everyone make a big deal out of press conference "call-outs"?? That's not where fights are made. That's exactly what I'm saying about Legendary Nights myths.

Pryor turned down the fight. You can argue that Leonard "low-balled" Pryor by only offering $500k, seeing as that Pryor made a lot more than that against Arguello, but that's still a lot more than Pryor had made up to that point.

Besides, Pryor wasn't even fighting in the same division at the time.

honestly, at that time, ill ask you, what would have been the benefit for doing so?

[skullduggery]

Half a million is no peanuts for a guy who made around $40,000 for winning the title.

There's no guarantee that a guy's who just made $40k for winning a title is going to turn down half a million a year later.

Again, press conference "call-outs" mean little except to cause boxing fans to get hard-ons that result in blue balls. A real call-out is in negotiations.

Pryor turned that offer down and also messed him his chance at a Duran fight due to managerial problems.

duran woulda caught an ass whoopin from a bad mutha****a..... but even still i think that the call-outs make it personal, thus, increases the chances to advance to the negotiation stage......

[skullduggery]

honestly, at that time, ill ask you, what would have been the benefit for doing so?

of doing what?

[Thread Stealer]

honestly, at that time, ill ask you, what would have been the benefit for doing so?

From Leonard's standpoint? Adding a champ on your resume is always good.

Everyone talks about Pryor being cheated by history and how he was ducked, but there's more to it than an HBO documentary. His personal and managerial issues played a big part in why he never got some of the big fights. He turned down the half-mil for a SRL fight. His managerial issues ruined the chance at a Duran fight. He had a unification bout with Mamby on the table, but he ended up getting shot by his wife, and his promoter who had set up the Mamby fight got arrested for embezzlement.

[boxasmash]

why dont you actually learn about weight classes and when people were prime dumbass.

[Thread Stealer]

duran woulda caught an ass whoopin from a bad mutha****a..... but even still i think that the call-outs make it personal, thus, increases the chances to advance to the negotiation stage......

Pryor never did much above 140. His frame was that of a 135-140 fighter.

The Duran fight would've been @ 150. Duran was inconsistent around this time but even then, he struggled more with slick boxers like Benitez, Laing, and a Leonard who turned dancer for the bout. Pryor, despite his tricky herky jerky defense, wasn't the hardest target in there, and would be right within range. Duran was the more polished fighter and likely would have won.