Unless mayweather is rusty: Marquez gets a worse beating then gatti..here's why

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  • THE REED
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    #51
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    Replace "is not" with "most likely not" and we have no issue.
    I don't need too... that's why the word "always" is there.

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    • THE REED
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Still to me it looks like you are saying there is no possibility for that outcome~.
      Because saying there is a first time for everything... is saying that every fighter will eventually lose... no matter what.

      And that isnt true. I have provided proof.

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        #53
        Just to let you all know, I think JMM is gonna KO Floyd.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #54
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          Because saying there is a first time for everything... is saying that every fighter will eventually lose... no matter what.

          And that isnt true. I have provided proof.
          Still, there is the possibility of this happeaning in the fight, so saying there is a first time for everything regarding a fight that has yet to take place, is not a wrong statement~.

          Comparing the past to the future is not the same~.

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            #55
            Originally posted by The Gambler1981
            Still, there is the possibility of this happeaning in the fight, so saying there is a first time for everything regarding a fight that has yet to take place, is not a wrong statement~.

            Comparing the past to the future is not the same~.
            Then he should of said... anything is possible.. and i would have agreed.

            Saying there IS a first time for EVERYTHING.

            Is not true.


            If we were having this discussion in the middle of Marciano's career, and you were to say he will lose, there is a first time for everything. You would have been wrong.

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              #56
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              Then he should of said... anything is possible.. and i would have agreed.

              Saying there IS a first time for EVERYTHING.

              Is not true.


              If we were having this discussion in the middle of Marciano's career, and you were to say he will lose, there is a first time for everything. You would have been wrong.
              You do not get it your comparison is ****ty and meaningless. You are comparing a KNOWN quantity to and UNKNOWN quantity, It is a possibility nothing more~.

              Saying there is not a first time for everything is the exact same as saying there is always a first time for everything.

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                #57
                "anything can happen" is not the same as "There IS a first time for everything"


                One is assuming the possibility.... one is assuming it will happen no matter what.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  Speculation.

                  All we KNOW is... he retired undefeated.

                  There wasnt a first time for it.

                  So there isnt ALWAYS a first time for everything.
                  Reed makes some very good points here LOL

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    You do not get it your comparison is ****ty and meaningless. You are comparing a KNOWN quantity to and UNKNOWN quantity, It is a possibility nothing more~.

                    Saying there is not a first time for everything is the exact same as saying there is always a first time for everything.
                    It isn't ****ty.

                    You cannot say "There IS a first time for everything"

                    You are assuming things that havent happened yet yourself.



                    I am not comparing Marcianos career, which has ended, and we know the outcome already... to Marquez's fight that hasnt happened yet.



                    What I am saying is... lets for ***sake, say that we are back in marciano's time.

                    And you said to me... Marciano will lose... "There is a first time for everything"

                    You would have been wrong.




                    There is not ALWAYS a first time for everything. I dont know how you can argue otherwise.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                      "anything can happen" is not the same as "There IS a first time for everything"


                      One is assuming the possibility.... one is assuming it will happen no matter what.
                      This conversation is getting nowhere fast~, look there is a possibility that JMM gets Gatti's is that likely maybe yes, maybe no, who the **** knows. I am not saying it will happean or a saure thing, I am just saying there is a possibility thus a statement like "there is a first time for everything" is not out of line.


                      When discussing something that has yet to even take place, all you can talk is possabilities.

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