Does the Welterweight Division need PacMan?

[Pullcounter]

My bad, I tought you were a litle smarter than must here, you are right let me just answer the way I should:


Do you think people don't know Manny has money? Well is like this, even if he does his not going to get on the ring for 2 or 3 millions? if he fights someone it has to be for like 14 or 15 millions....are you following me ,so far? (lol) do you really think HBO or Showtime will pay Manny that kind of money to fight Valero? JMM? NOOOOOO...... are you still with me? hahaha so in other words: I think you are the one that should READ before posting...is simple....No demand or "BUZZ" for the fight....No money......so who needs who?........is a rhetorical question by the way hahahaha

uh... roach said pbf, jmm, retire. both are gonna net him $15+ million per fight.

you should know that valero is just a smokescreen to get pbf to drop his financial demands.

I thought you were smarter than that.

[Jay26]

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Truth right here.... Its not Manny calling out the WW.. IT the WW who are calling out PAC.. so you have 147-154 lbs guys calling a guy out who can make LW very easy...

Hum? let me think about this?.......oh ok I got it, I swear I think I do....when he fought DLH @ what weight and division that was? I'm pretty sure it was WW......So he can fight a hydrated DLH @ 147 but he won't fight a true WW?......hmmmm sounds like someone is becoming just like his predecessor.....a Lil *****!

[Gutz]

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Hum? let me think about this?.......oh ok I got it, I swear I think I do....when he fought DLH @ what weight and division that was? I'm pretty sure it was WW......So he can fight a hydrated DLH @ 147 but he won't fight a true WW?......hmmmm sounds like someone is becoming just like his predecessor.....a Lil *****!

hmm

Pac comes up 2 weight class to fight ODH ... Which was the greatest payday Now he needs to come up once again to fight WW who are calling him out ... and he the *****..


Great logic buddy...

[Bogler]

[QUOTE=Jay26;5451911]

Hum? let me think about this?.......oh ok I got it, I swear I think I do....when he fought DLH @ what weight and division that was? I'm pretty sure it was WW......So he can fight a hydrated DLH @ 147 but he won't fight a true WW?......hmmmm sounds like someone is becoming just like his predecessor.....a Lil *****!

DLH was fighting at 154. Pac's last fight before this was at 135, 2 divisions lower. DLH wanted the fight and 147 wasn't even the middleground. Pac was way below the limit at the weigh-in at 142. in the hatton fight, he was 138 w/ bfast. now do you really think when PAC fought DLH that he was a true WW?

[Jay26]

uh... roach said pbf, jmm, retire. both are gonna net him $15+ million per fight.

you should know that valero is just a smokescreen to get pbf to drop his financial demands.

I thought you were smarter than that.

And because Roach said it IT HAS TO BE TRUTH RIGHT? hahahahaha So I'm assuming here (just like you) that Freddie knows one of the networks will put this money for this fight.....HBO is almost out of money and they will be willing to give Pacman that kind of money to fight someone not name Mayweather,Mosley or Cotto,right? Right,right and he will also get a share of the PPV , I don't know 10% after the Million buys,right? hahahaha Dude don't be naive HBO and for that matter Showtime (Top rank) will only get this guy on MEGA FIGHTS, PBF is the only one that will make him that kind of money but we might never see that fight,so whats option B? I know is to hard to comprehend, let me help you out....how about SSM on a 60/40 split......does that sound like something he might do?.......sorry I really thought you were smarter than this!

[Jay26]

[QUOTE=Gutz;5451945]

hmm

Pac comes up 2 weight class to fight ODH ... Which was the greatest payday Now he needs to come up once again to fight WW who are calling him out ... and he the *****..


Great logic buddy...

No your logic is better....so you saying he will go 2 weight classes to fight DLH but he won't go 7 pounds south of his previous fight for a MEGA FIGHT.....great job buddy, you have outdone yourself this time lol

[Jay26]

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DLH was fighting at 154. Pac's last fight before this was at 135, 2 divisions lower. DLH wanted the fight and 147 wasn't even the middleground. Pac was way below the limit at the weigh-in at 142. in the hatton fight, he was 138 w/ bfast. now do you really think when PAC fought DLH that he was a true WW?

Ok and since you know all this.....who was the heavier guy coming fight night?

[Pullcounter]

Hum? let me think about this?.......oh ok I got it, I swear I think I do....when he fought DLH @ what weight and division that was? I'm pretty sure it was WW......So he can fight a hydrated DLH @ 147 but he won't fight a true WW?......hmmmm sounds like someone is becoming just like his predecessor.....a Lil *****!

1) roach said the dlh fight at 147 was a ONE time deal

2) pac officially weighed 138 lbs against hatton just a few weeks ago. when was the last time cotto/mosley/pbf officially weighed 138 lbs???

3) roach never intended for pac to campaign at WW

4) unless cotto/mosley/pbf agrees to 142, this fight shouldn't even be discussed. Get down to 142 lbs or GTFO and fight mosley

5) Cotto/mosley is a MW on fight night and Pac is a WW on fight night. IS THAT FAIR???

6) pac officially weighed 142 lbs against dlh. when was the last time cotto/mosley/pbf officially weighed 142 lbs???

[Bogler]

[QUOTE=Jay26;5452001]

No your logic is better....so you saying he will go 2 weight classes to fight DLH but he won't go 7 pounds south of his previous fight for a MEGA FIGHT.....great job buddy, you have outdone yourself this time lol

are you that simpleton really? who the ****kkkk would throw away a winning ticket to the DLH lottery??? even Darchinyan expressed that he'd gladly do it. but do you think he'd campaign at 147 after fighting DLH at 147???

[Pullcounter]

And because Roach said it IT HAS TO BE TRUTH RIGHT?

I dunno about you, but I put more weight w/ roach than w/ pac's "advisors". but that's just me.

hahahahaha So I'm assuming here (just like you) that Freddie knows one of the networks will put this money for this fight.....HBO is almost out of money and they will be willing to give Pacman that kind of money to fight someone not name Mayweather,Mosley or Cotto,right?

roach said floyd, jmm, retire. I dunno why you don't understand that.

Right,right and he will also get a share of the PPV , I don't know 10% after the Million buys,right? hahahaha Dude don't be naive HBO and for that matter Showtime (Top rank) will only get this guy on MEGA FIGHTS, PBF is the only one that will make him that kind of money but we might never see that fight,so whats option B?

option B is jmm at 140 lbs. HBO will pay for that because its a grudge match and people wanna see the rubbermatch even if jmm loses to pbf. people can still say (and rightfully so) that jmm had no business fighting at 144 lbs.

but more than likely pac/pbf will come off.

I know is to hard to comprehend, let me help you out....how about SSM on a 60/40 split......does that sound like something he might do?.......sorry I really thought you were smarter than this!

Pac doesn't need to fight mosley or cotto.

you should know that all that pac vs. mosley / cotto talk is just smokescreen to get pbf to lower his demands.

I overestimated your intelligence.