Does the Welterweight Division need PacMan?

[enzogabriel]

paquiao ryt now = dollars..

paquiao s not calling them ww; theyr calling him.

if ww doesnt need paquiao theyl hav to start fightin each other but evry one

of them sees dollar on lil man from asia.. love it or hate it, money talks, ask

mayweather.

[RRICAN]

manny should stay at 140,if he wants to fight at ww he has to come up not the other way. i know money is the reason for all this drama

[Jay26]

paquiao ryt now = dollars..

paquiao s not calling them ww; theyr calling him.

if ww doesnt need paquiao theyl hav to start fightin each other but evry one

of them sees dollar on lil man from asia.. love it or hate it, money talks, ask

mayweather.

They don't see money only...you know what they also see? A fighter that can and will be beaten. Do you think Manny can beat SSM or Cotto? Why do you think they want them to go down on weight?,because if you believe on your skills you don't need this kind of ridiculous advantages. They now this guys are to BIG, they will man handle Manny.....again I like the guy but lets call spade a spade.

[Joe2608]

Small Welters like Floyd yes. But he shouldn't be fighting Cotto or Mosley, even if he does have a chance to beat them.

[M.I Truth ?]

The problem is the welters see Pac as a chance to make a lot of money and they see him as being very beatable. He should just fight the 140 champs and Mayweather or Marquez.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Your right lets be fair the Welterweights are pretty good at fighting each other over last few years:

Cotto vs Marg
Cotto vs Mosley
Mosley vs Margo
Margo vs Clottely
Margo vs Williams
Cotto vs Clottey (soon) + Mayweather hopefully fights these guys to soon

Etc This division got so much talent man they don't need pac at all, Pac needs them if anything or at least he needs Floyd for that big fight. I wouldn't mind seeing Mosley fighting Pac cause he is my boy and i want a big pay day for him. But Pac's people are straight up bitches tbh with these demands, i hope they don't try pull this **** with Floyd cause he wont take it and i do want to see Pac/Floyd.

[Pullcounter]

[QUOTE=Jay26;5451097]The reason I make this question is simple: The reality is who needs who? Let's make it clear PFM will get the others (Cotto,SSM,PW) just as much of not even more recognition and money as if they were to fight Manny.So why people are under the impression that the welterweights need Pacquiao? Why do they need to agree on a "catch weight"? if you can fight at WW then fine, stay on Jnr. WW....not a knock on Pacquiao....I like the guy but all this "demands" of where and how they are going to fight, now even asking for the weight in to be the same day OF THE FIGHT,WTF is that? is you can fight them then don't do it, if you think like Freddie Roach that he will beat them....THEN DO IT, but stop making so many stipulations...listen the WW division don't need Manny,but now let's think about this for a minute.....If he doesn't fight this guys,who will he fight? Valero,JMM, who? Will those fights give him the money he will be looking for? OF COURSE NOT! So please let's stop with all this non sense, about Manny calling the shots.....HE IS NOT THE ONLY CASH COW OF THE SPORT.....and this is coming from someone who hates Gayweather but is the truth. The WW is the most talented and exiting division with out Manny, does it make it better with him? OF COURSE IT DOES.....But if you want to fight on equal ground not by making the "MANNY RULES".

the WW don't need pac but they all wanna cash in on fighting a little dude.

it's pretty sad when there are plenty of good match up at 147 but all these big guys wanna do is fight a guy that officially weighed 138 lbs in his last fight.

Team Pac got a right to ask for catchweights because at most he is a WW on fight night, but some of these guys are a big as MW on fight night. without leveling the playing field these fights between pac and welterweights are blatant mismatches. so if these "MWs" don't like the catchweight they can walk.

As for who can pac fight? Roach already gave us the hitlist. Floyd, JMM, retire. Pac is not strapped for cash. He's got enough money that his grandkids will be well off in the Phillipines and he's got a promising career in politics. He could walk away from boxing right now and not look back. So stop acting like Pac is still a poor pinoy kid scrappin on the streets. he don't really need to fight any WWs for financial as well as legacy reasons.

Pac can't make the WW division better because he's not a WW and has no intention of campaigning at WW. But if you want a shot at Pac, you gotta play by MANNY'S RULES.

[#1Assassin]

pacquiao is ****ing up the whole division. he should forget about these catchweights and just fight at 140. eighter at 140 or step the **** up and fight at 147 without no damn catchweights. no division depends or needs a single fighter, and certainly not the welterweight division which is full of talent.

[Jay26]

[QUOTE=Pullcounter;5451501]

The reason I make this question is simple: The reality is who needs who? Let's make it clear PFM will get the others (Cotto,SSM,PW) just as much of not even more recognition and money as if they were to fight Manny.So why people are under the impression that the welterweights need Pacquiao? Why do they need to agree on a "catch weight"? if you can fight at WW then fine, stay on Jnr. WW....not a knock on Pacquiao....I like the guy but all this "demands" of where and how they are going to fight, now even asking for the weight in to be the same day OF THE FIGHT,WTF is that? is you can fight them then don't do it, if you think like Freddie Roach that he will beat them....THEN DO IT, but stop making so many stipulations...listen the WW division don't need Manny,but now let's think about this for a minute.....If he doesn't fight this guys,who will he fight? Valero,JMM, who? Will those fights give him the money he will be looking for? OF COURSE NOT! So please let's stop with all this non sense, about Manny calling the shots.....HE IS NOT THE ONLY CASH COW OF THE SPORT.....and this is coming from someone who hates Gayweather but is the truth. The WW is the most talented and exiting division with out Manny, does it make it better with him? OF COURSE IT DOES.....But if you want to fight on equal ground not by making the "MANNY RULES".

the WW don't need pac but they all wanna cash in on fighting a little dude.

it's pretty sad when there are plenty of good match up at 147 but all these big guys wanna do is fight a guy that officially weighed 138 lbs in his last fight.

Team Pac got a right to ask for catchweights because at most he is a WW on fight night, but some of these guys are a big as MW on fight night. without leveling the playing field these fights between pac and welterweights are blatant mismatches. so if these "MWs" don't like the catchweight they can walk.

As for who can pac fight? Roach already gave us the hitlist. Floyd, JMM, retire. Pac is not strapped for cash. He's got enough money that his grandkids will be well off in the Phillipines and he's got a promising career in politics. He could walk away from boxing right now and not look back. So stop acting like Pac is still a poor pinoy kid scrappin on the streets. he don't really need to fight any WWs for financial as well as legacy reasons.

Pac can't make the WW division better because he's not a WW and has no intention of campaigning at WW. But if you want a shot at Pac, you gotta play by MANNY'S RULES.

when and where I made those remarks on my post? Bro don't assume **** that you don't know.......as far as MANNY RULES GOES, how about this: **** THEM! If you can retire then so ****ing beat it don't stay and **** boxing the same way DLH did before him,the same way FMW did....if you don't need to be here then don't be, he won't be missed.....we have enough talent on boxing to carry away the sport...JMM,SSM,PFM,MC,Etc!

[2fast2strong423]

if people wanna b known as the p4p best, then fight the best fighters in the wieght classes they belong..... asking them to come down so u can have the advantage is BS. If he was willing to come up to fight DLH then do the same for every1 else, it makes him and his team look like *****'s. i like pac but he has been picking his opponents "wisely"