Weigh-ins or fight night weights.

[Ray*]

I can relate to that. Benny Leonard (the poster) made a thread about the procedure a while ago.

I agree that it appears that some fighters tend to baloon in a way that seems unhealthy and a way to hinder that would be to set a limit for the hydration at say 10% or whatever. Still that would get us back to one of the reasons why the current procedure is what it is. I guess it was Johnson who was to challenge Spinks for the LHW belt and he was too heavy. Spinks refused to fight him and the entire show was cancelled on the day of the fight. Such a fiasco could happen again then.

It's difficult to make a perfect set of rules that balances fighter safety with network interests or at least I haven't seen a proposal that gets the job done.

The current procedure is very soft and allows a fighter to get away with too many advantages, I just think it needs there needs to be a limit on what they can weigh on fight night if they want to keep this procedure going.

Like a poster on here already pointed out only the IBF has a similar procedure at 10ib and i hope the rest follow that.

[TheGreatA]

Fighters will stay where the money are. It's always been like that and always will. A new Duk Koo Kim incident will not only be the problem of Kim and his team but a problem for all of boxing.

There have been plenty of Duk Koo Kim's after and there always will be.

Having people fight each other at the weight that they weigh in at wouldn't stop people from dehydrating themselves but it would stop incidents such as Gatti-Gamache in which a fighter outweighs another by over 15 lbs.

[RodBarker]

2 weigh ins stops drying out because no fighter is going to dehydrate himself 10 or more pounds for 48 hrs and fight in that state , he would lose and badly , officials can stop all this drying out bull**** very easy .

[RodBarker]

The current procedure is very soft and allows a fighter to get away with too many advantages, I just think it needs there needs to be a limit on what they can weigh on fight night if they want to keep this procedure going.

Like a poster on here already pointed out only the IBF has a similar procedure at 10ib and i hope the rest follow that.

http://nysbar.com/blogs/EASL/2009/04/boxing_issues.html

The duty owed by the Commission is heightened by a third provision, 19 NYCRR § 213.14, which provides that “[n]o boxer shall participate in any contest or exhibition following weight loss of one percent or more of body weight within 24 hours prior to such contest or exhibition, unless otherwise authorized by the commission.” This provision would seem to indicate that the Commission has a proactive duty to investigate whether a boxer had to lose weight by extreme means prior to the weigh-in to get to the contractually agreed upon weight for a given fight. The duty is further heightened by 19 NYCRR § 214.8, which indicates that a bout should not be permitted to take place between two junior welterweights if there is more than an 11 lb. weight differential between them.

[Ray*]

Fighters will stay where the money are. It's always been like that and always will. A new Duk Koo Kim incident will not only be the problem of Kim and his team but a problem for all of boxing.

Well they need to stay where their weights are not where the money is, Thats why boxing is having all those problems...Money money money, Yes they box for a living and they have to put fod on their table but thats why corruption has set into boxing.

[BattlingNelson]

There have been plenty of Duk Koo Kim's after and there always will be.

Having people fight each other at the weight that they weigh in at wouldn't stop people from dehydrating themselves but it would stop incidents such as Gatti-Gamache in which a fighter outweighs another by over 15 lbs.

True. Still the perfect procedure has yet to be found. I for one just cannot see it. By keeping the weigh-in where it is today you risk big differences come fight time. By moving the weigh-in forward you risk more cases of dehydration and thereby increased risk of permanent damages.

[Ray*]

http://nysbar.com/blogs/EASL/2009/04/boxing_issues.html

The duty owed by the Commission is heightened by a third provision, 19 NYCRR § 213.14, which provides that “[n]o boxer shall participate in any contest or exhibition following weight loss of one percent or more of body weight within 24 hours prior to such contest or exhibition, unless otherwise authorized by the commission.” This provision would seem to indicate that the Commission has a proactive duty to investigate whether a boxer had to lose weight by extreme means prior to the weigh-in to get to the contractually agreed upon weight for a given fight. The duty is further heightened by 19 NYCRR § 214.8, which indicates that a bout should not be permitted to take place between two junior welterweights if there is more than an 11 lb. weight differential between them.

Exactly, Boxing need something like this...

[Ray*]

True. Still the perfect procedure has yet to be found. I for one just cannot see it. By keeping the weigh-in where it is today you risk big differences come fight time. By moving the weigh-in forward you risk more cases of dehydration and thereby increased risk of permanent damages.

I doubt it, Fighters would be force to move up and fight at a healthy weight, Mosley wants to fight Pacquiao for example and he is willing to come down to 144 but by fight night he would probably have rehydrate to 160ish but if they said he cant weight more than 150 on fight night then he would be force to look elsewhere instead of looking at a little guy to fight.

[MANGLER]

The ****in weight you sign a contract to fight at is your division weight, thus the weight that counts cuz you legally have to make it on fight nite. Unofficial weights are called that for a reason.

[TheGreatA]

True. Still the perfect procedure has yet to be found. I for one just cannot see it. By keeping the weigh-in where it is today you risk big differences come fight time. By moving the weigh-in forward you risk more cases of dehydration and thereby increased risk of permanent damages.

The big problem that I have with today's weigh-in procedures is that there have actually been more cases of boxers suffering injuries in the ring due dehydration than there were before.

Having 24 hours of time to put on 15-20 lbs after dropping extreme amounts of weight did not help Gerald McClellan, Leavander Johnson, Michael Watson, "Kid" Akeem Anifowoshe, Paul Ingle...