Weigh-ins or fight night weights.

[deanrw]

Good question Nelson, I think (Just my opinion) that fight night weight are more significant because thats the weight the fighter/opponent weigh in the ring. If am fighting a 140 who weigh in at 155 i wouldnt feeling like am fighting a 140 imo, I would feel like am fighting a light-middleweight.

There should be a limit of what a fighter can rehydrate to if they cant do a sameday weigh in.

If you set up a limit on what a fighters can gain after weigh in, you set up the same scenario as to why they brought in the current rules in the first place. Lets says you place a 5lb limit on what they can gain, that will not stop a fighter from potentially coming in still dehydrated and still opening them up to the potential of a brain injury during a fight.

[TheGreatA]

I believe the IBF only allows fighters to put on 10 lbs after the official weigh-ins. That's a step in the right direction although in my opinion the weigh-ins should be held the day of the fight.

It's senseless to have boxers come in as super middleweight to welterweight fights.

Rule 1.F: Second Day weigh-In – There shall be a second weigh-in on the morning of the event. At this weigh-in, boxers cannot weigh more than 10 pounds over the weight limit. If either boxer does not make the weight, the fight cannot proceed as a Championship bout.

This is supposedly part of why Judah was able to keep his IBF title after losing to Baldomir who did not appear at the second weigh-in (probably because he puts on much more than 10 lbs after weigh-ins).

Of course the main reason was because Baldomir did not pay the IBF sanction fees...

[RodBarker]

I personally believe what fighters weigh on fight night is more significant than the day before, I dont agree with fighters weigh in at 140 a day before then 155 on fight night.

Which one do you agree with more the fighters weight at the weigh in or the fighters weight on fight night???

I agree fully Ray and have been singing it for a long time , 30hrs is to long and todays smarties use very scientific methods which actually abuse the reasoning behind 30 hr weigh-ins .

The purpose of a fight is a fair fight thats why divisions were created in the first place , what is the point of say a 147 fight when the fighters are anywhere from 147 to 160 on the night its just crazy , and then you have fans judging a boxers performance and only have in mind the limit weight when that can be way out and even worse only one is way out , how can you judge a fighter fairly when he is handicapped like that and you dont take it into account , its like a racehorse that plods to the line thats what people see , they dont see the huge lead weight he is carrying in the saddle that the others dont carry , all they see is a plodder and sometimes the plodder is champion that was killed by the handicapper .

I would like to see the division limits applied on fight night , meaning a WW must not be over 147 stepping into the ring only then will have a system built around and guaranteeing fair fight , it could easily be applied by having 2 official weigh-ins a pre the day before and another 4 hrs before the fight , if a fighter comes in heavy at the 4 hr weigh he is penalized 1 point for every pound over the limit , it would not take long for fighters to get the message about being on weight .

[BattlingNelson]

Good question Nelson, I think (Just my opinion) that fight night weight are more significant because thats the weight the fighter/opponent weigh in the ring. If am fighting a 140 who weigh in at 155 i wouldnt feeling like am fighting a 140 imo, I would feel like am fighting a light-middleweight.

There should be a limit of what a fighter can rehydrate to if they cant do a sameday weigh in.

I can relate to that. Benny Leonard (the poster) made a thread about the procedure a while ago.

I agree that it appears that some fighters tend to baloon in a way that seems unhealthy and a way to hinder that would be to set a limit for the hydration at say 10% or whatever. Still that would get us back to one of the reasons why the current procedure is what it is. I guess it was Johnson who was to challenge Spinks for the LHW belt and he was too heavy. Spinks refused to fight him and the entire show was cancelled on the day of the fight. Such a fiasco could happen again then.

It's difficult to make a perfect set of rules that balances fighter safety with network interests or at least I haven't seen a proposal that gets the job done.

[#1Assassin]

fighters who mess around with their weight only cut their own career short so let them. it takes alot out of the fighter too so it pretty much evens out. and its not really worth talking about since its not gon change anytime soon.

[el malo]

I personally believe what fighters weigh on fight night is more significant than the day before, I dont agree with fighters weigh in at 140 a day before then 155 on fight night. Which one do you agree with more the fighters weight at the weigh in or the fighters weight on fight night???

weigh in weight cuz the fighter has to train to meet a certain limit. if there's no weigh in limit, fighters would need to train and they would fight like ****.

[Ray*]

If you set up a limit on what a fighters can gain after weigh in, you set up the same scenario as to why they brought in the current rules in the first place. Lets says you place a 5lb limit on what they can gain, that will not stop a fighter from potentially coming in still dehydrated and still opening them up to the potential of a brain injury during a fight.

Then they should move up in weigh and avoid that, That wouldnt and shouldnt be anyone's problem expect the fighter and his team.

[el malo]

If you set up a limit on what a fighters can gain after weigh in, you set up the same scenario as to why they brought in the current rules in the first place. Lets says you place a 5lb limit on what they can gain, that will not stop a fighter from potentially coming in still dehydrated and still opening them up to the potential of a brain injury during a fight.

i agree with this. if you think about it all fighters dehydrate themselves to reach the limit they need to reach. they need to rehydrate those 5-15 pounds to be healthy on fight night.

[RodBarker]

weigh in weight cuz the fighter has to train to meet a certain limit. if there's no weigh in limit, fighters would need to train and they would fight like ****.

Your comment makes no sense , the limit is the fight limit on the day , its the same deal and they still got to train for the weight limit , the idea is for them to be very close to equal on fight night that is the aim , its not that hard to implement , they would fight the same .

[BattlingNelson]

Then they should move up in weigh and avoid that, That wouldnt and shouldnt be anyone's problem expect the fighter and his team.

Fighters will stay where the money are. It's always been like that and always will. A new Duk Koo Kim incident will not only be the problem of Kim and his team but a problem for all of boxing.