How good is Trinidad?

[cple]

I still consider Trinidad's victory over Mayorga impressive. Yes, he was in their with a smaller opponent with the perfect style. Still, how many people thought Tito would look as sharp as he did after 2 damn years of retirement? Not many. He looked as if he never left. Landing 60% of your punches is impressive even against a human punching bag. In the grand scheme of things, the fight didn't boost his legacy, but the impressive aspect was the way he looked in the ring. I was expecting a little rust, there was none.

As for Trinidad's all-time status, if he beats Hopkins and DLH, he won't be anywhere near the top 10. And i'm a Tito fan; always have been.

[Eman]

Well it shows you that the man is helpless when being outboxed. Not even his punching power can save him in that situation. Everyone that you mentioned aside from Ried, OSacr also beat.

Very true, but another thing that i dont understand is how is oscar considered so much better than tito if they basically fought the same people. But the way i see it the people that they fought i actually think tito beat them all with a better performance.

[m00ks]

Very true, but another thing that i dont understand is how is oscar considered so much better than tito if they basically fought the same people. But the way i see it the people that they fought i actually think tito beat them all with a better performance.

Because DLH beat tito even with the running. Tito had nothing. If anything, Oscar gave Trinidad his win (although he did enough and should have been given the decision). THAT IS WHY DLH IS BETTER.

[borikua]

How good is Trinidad? he's a hall of fame candidate for sure and one of the sports most exciting fighters ever...So good that he beat 3 former US gold medalist...

If by now you don't know if Tito is a "good" fighter just look at this stats:

World Championship Titles held:

Welterweight (147Lbs.) IBF (06-19-93 - 03-03-00)
Welterweight (147Lbs.) WBC (09-18-99 - 03-03-00)
Jr Middleweight (154Lbs.) WBA (03-03-00 - 05-13-2001)
Jr Middleweight (154Lbs.) IBF (12-02-00 - 05-13-2001)
Middlweight (160Lbs.) WBA (05-13-2001 - 09-29-2001)

Notable Wins:
Hector Camacho - 12 Round Unanimous Decision.
Pernell Whittacker - 12 Round Unanimous Decision.
Oscar De la Hoya - 12 Round Majority Decision.
David Reid - 12 Round Unanimous Decision.
Fernando Vargas - Technical Knockout in 12th Round.
William Joppy - Technical Knockout in 5th Round.
Ricardo Mayorga - Technical Knockout in 8th Round.

Notable Loss:
Bernard Hopkins - Technical Knockout in 12th Round.

[trinidadpr87]

Gave Oba Carr Yory Boy Campas Their First Losses

[teakay]

Tito will be an all time great fighter when he is done boxing.

I know, I know, alot of people on these boxing forums hate it when someone considers one of todays fighters as "great", but you guys need to get your daddy's d1ck out of your mouth. Anyone here who actually boxed before can see alot of greatness about his boxing style. Also Tito fought all the dangerous fighters, he can get up from the canvas, gots power in both hands, and can close the show.
What more do you need to do to be considered great these days? Move up to HW and beat the HW champ, nope that's been done, didn't work.

[m00ks]

Tito will be an all time great fighter when he is done boxing.

I know, I know, alot of people on these boxing forums hate it when someone considers one of todays fighters as "great", but you guys need to get your daddy's d1ck out of your mouth. Anyone here who actually boxed before can see alot of greatness about his boxing style. Also Tito fought all the dangerous fighters, he can get up from the canvas, gots power in both hands, and can close the show.
What more do you need to do to be considered great these days? Move up to HW and beat the HW champ, nope that's been done, didn't work.

He'll be fine as long as he doesn't get in the ring with B-hop and Oscar again.

[jack_the_rippuh]

Trinidad...top 35 of all time???? You don't mean in general do you? And if he beats Sturm and Hopkins he'll be in the top 10 of all time. I doubt it...all fights and performances aside...he just doesn't have the tools to be held in such high regard. Look at John Ruiz (and no I'm not comparing Tito to John Ruiz as far as fighting goes in any way, shape or form..) he wins fights, but I doubt he'll ever be looked at in the future as great or one of the greatest champs, simply because he doesn't have the tools to be looked at as a great champ..he's two-dimensional i.e. punch, hug.

[Eman]

how doesnt he have the tools, im not gonna repeat everything teakay said cuz that was perfect so if those arent tools, who in this boxing game has "tools"

[theironone]

AFTER HE BEATS HOPKINS OLD ASS.

Tito doesn't have the ability to change his gameplan to beat Hopkins, Hopkins has too much skill and ring brain to be beat by Tito.
However, this is Titos best chance at revenge cos Hopkins is getting on but I personally think he's got a good 18 months left.
Hopkins will win again when (if) they fight in 2005