How good is Trinidad?

[INFAMOUZ]

It seems to me Trinidad's victory over Mayorga was hyped out of all proportion to what acctually happened, good fight, good win, but lets face it, how great an opponent is Mayorga who was fighting up a weight class and doesn't exactly have the greatest boxing credentials.

While give Trinidad credit for winning a tough but "showey" circus like fight with Mayorga, i'm not as impressed as all of his rabid fans, some who see him as a national hero in Puerto Rico.

I see Trinidad as needing a convincing victory over both Hopkins and De La Hoya before he can be considered "great" again, something I seriously doubt he'll accomplish.

[Sir_Jose]

Tito is a fighter who with the right guy in front of him acn look very good. If you come right at him you have no chance.

But in his two biggest fights against the best fighters he fought he wasn't even competative.

He never learned to cut off the ring and this killed him agaisnt Hopkind and DLH.

[bigdlb12]

he is good, the best PR has had up to date, but he is lacking a big name, had he beat Hopkins and moved up to fight Jones, oh man, he would be in the all time great books

[m00ks]

he is good, the best PR has had up to date, but he is lacking a big name, had he beat Hopkins and moved up to fight Jones, oh man, he would be in the all time great books

Yep, B-Hop and DLH tarnished his name even though he got a "win" against the Golden Boy. His win over Mayorga just proved he ain't shot but that's it.

[Eman]

I dont understand what you mean by "big name" If you mean as in fighters he has fought and beat then i see alot of names. Hector Camacho, Oba Carr, Pernell Whitaker, ODLH, David Reid, Fernando Vargas and alot of others. Everyone talks **** about how he lost to DLH but it was a draw, even Larry Merchants card had it that way 114-114. So the only lose he ever had was against the best pound for pound fighter in boxing and maybe one of the top 3 middleweights ever. So i dont understand why there is even any discussion Trinidads name or record being "Tarished" because of 2 fights

[trinidadpr87]

Right Now Trinidad Is In The Top 35 All Time But After Sturm And Hopkins Lose To Him Top 10.

[The Fix]

^^^^^there is no way tito is anywhere near top ten all time. i could name at least ten fighters fighting right now that are better p4p.

[trinidadpr87]

^^^^^there is no way tito is anywhere near top ten all time. i could name at least ten fighters fighting right now that are better p4p.

AFTER HE BEATS HOPKINS OLD ASS.

[mic573]

Even if he beats Hopkins and Delahoya I still don't see him as a top 10 all-time great. I don't make a big deal over his easy win against Mayorga because it is what I had been saying since I came to the boxingscene forum when the fight was put together. Tito is a great fighter and it is just the people who have serious hate for him that say he isn't. The only man to beat Tito completely is Bernard Hopkins and he is considered one of the greatest middleweights ever. Even if I had Oscar winning a close fight with Tito he didn't convince me he was that much better than Tito. It takes more than just movement to beat Tito. A fighter has to bring a complete gameplan the way Hopkins did and Oscar didn't have a complete gameplan that night.

[m00ks]

I dont understand what you mean by "big name" If you mean as in fighters he has fought and beat then i see alot of names. Hector Camacho, Oba Carr, Pernell Whitaker, ODLH, David Reid, Fernando Vargas and alot of others. Everyone talks **** about how he lost to DLH but it was a draw, even Larry Merchants card had it that way 114-114. So the only lose he ever had was against the best pound for pound fighter in boxing and maybe one of the top 3 middleweights ever. So i dont understand why there is even any discussion Trinidads name or record being "Tarished" because of 2 fights

Well it shows you that the man is helpless when being outboxed. Not even his punching power can save him in that situation. Everyone that you mentioned aside from Ried, OSacr also beat.