Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"

[mrosborne]

You started off your post with good points. 100% agree FMJ is fighting Marquez the lightweight king again really shows P4P heroics right there.

Your second point is where you lost focuses. Delaquitter was looking for a final fight and decided to fight the lightweight Pacquiao (Kinda like what Floyds doing right now).

Pacquiao never calls out any opponents and for sure never called out Delaquitter. The idea was first addressed by Merchant and Delaquitter thought why not, but little did he know he would still be sitting on his stool embarrassed.

True, Oscar didn't think in a million years that would have been the outcome, and neither did anyone else except for those with absolute faith in Pacquiao. This fight was derided by nearly everyone saying it was a colossal mismatch, a joke of a fight, etc etc, and it was! It was a classic Irony demonstration. Nothing is worse than re-achieving greatness by trying to fold the odds in your favor then having it blow up in your face. I laughed when he lost just for this reason. Otherwise Oscar was a great fighter, but his ego caught up to him and he couldn't accept someone much smaller was usurping his limelight. That's called ego.

[freedom213]

I am really an Osborne, and I'm assuming you're one too given the post. Sup?

not much here like you sorting thru the ******ed posts to get to a few gems worthy of my interest. good to know distant family is around though, even spelled the same. Where you from my man?

[trainhard_187]

I'm not crazy about the weight demand that Floyd made in this fight either, but I view JMM as a tougher challenge than a lot of other fighters for Floyd. In fact, the only other fighters that I view as challenges for Mayweather at 140-147 is Paul Williams, Shane Mosley, and Manny Pacquiao. I think Cotto is overrated and even JMM and Pac would beat him.

Please dont tell me Marquez purely dominated his lightweight oppositions. Even though he KOed Joel and Diaz, he still didnt look comfortable at LW, what more 143-144?

[boxingfan76]

Posts like that arent gonna earn you credibility. Try posting something like this

"My name is boxingfan76, I dont know sh$% about boxing but am a avid fan of figure skating and men with hairy chest".

Post that and then ill give you some green!!!

okay i dont know anything about boxing because i dont agree with all your ****** ****? rado just packed your ass a few posts ago and now your praising him, have some dignity boy. and by the way rado rolled you real nice and said basically same thing i said and you now agree with him but not me? whatever dude.

[mrosborne]

Mosley at 142 is not a fair condition. It's BS. Hank Armstrong used to fight real welters giving up 10-15 lbs. and kicked their ass.

Man up or stay out of welter. So what if a bunch of people went 'he ducked Mosley.' 20 years from now it will mean ****.

Mayweather got accused of some ducks in divisions where he was firmly established...one that never gained traction was Winky Wright because at the end of the day it was TOO big. There is no shame in the former Feather and Fly champ to say, "Too Big" in the era of day before weigh ins.

Excellent point with the Armstrong reference. Unless you are taking all conceivable odds AGAINST YOU and stepping up to a weight you are too small for and assured to lose, then it isn't greatness. Period. That's what FMJ fans fail to grasp, and Pacman lunatics as well. Weightdraining a bigger guy and forcing him to be weak from the outset is called HANDICAPPING. Why not just tie one hand behind his back too? Ridiculous.

[Dave Rado]

you think its good for pac to say NO......he'll get accused of ducking from everybody and deserves so like floyd if he says no....that's what separates him from floyd....he fights everyone...but in a fair conditions...

It's absolutely ridiculous to claim that asking a fighter to come in weight drained is "fair conditions". doing that is nothing short of disgusting and makes a complete farce of a great sport.

If he thinks his highest effective weight is Jnr Welterweight then he can only be accused of ducking if he refuses to fight any top Jnr Welterweights. If he thinks he can make Welterweight, he should fight at 147. There are too many weight classes as it is. Some people have been comparing Pac to Henry Armstrong, but there were only 8 divisions in Armstrong's day, and he won the Welterweight title and cleaned out the division while still weighing in at only 135.

[boxingfan76]

Excellent point with the Armstrong reference. Unless you are taking all conceivable odds AGAINST YOU and stepping up to a weight you are too small for and assured to lose, then it isn't greatness. Period. That's what FMJ fans fail to grasp, and Pacman lunatics as well. Weightdraining a bigger guy and forcing him to be weak from the outset is called HANDICAPPING. Why not just tie one hand behind his back too? Ridiculous.

very well said.

[mrosborne]

not much here like you sorting thru the ******ed posts to get to a few gems worthy of my interest. good to know distant family is around though, even spelled the same. Where you from my man?

I live in Southern California. I've run across a few Osbornes in my time, but none seemed related to me. You also have your Osborn, Osburn, Osbournes etc.
Hell, if you ever go to Texas, it doesn't matter how your last name is spelled, it's still pronounced OSBURN!

[freedom213]

Mosley at 142 is not a fair condition. It's BS. Hank Armstrong used to fight real welters giving up 10-15 lbs. and kicked their ass.

Man up or stay out of welter. So what if a bunch of people went 'he ducked Mosley.' 20 years from now it will mean ****.

Mayweather got accused of some ducks in divisions where he was firmly established...one that never gained traction was Winky Wright because at the end of the day it was TOO big. There is no shame in the former Feather and Fly champ to say, "Too Big" in the era of day before weigh ins.

excellent post and very true. This is a simple case of economics trumping fighters common sense when it comes to their health. Can Mosley make 142 and be healthy? I guess only he knows but this is truly a diversion and the only thing that makes this fight a possibility is if Mayweather is upset by Marquez and Mosley is deemed a bigger draw than Manny vs Marquez 3. Honestly I dont see this fight happening no matter what Shane agrees to concede.

[crold1]

It's absolutely ridiculous to claim that asking a fighter to come in weight drained is "fair conditions". doing that is nothing short of disgusting and makes a complete farce of a great sport.

If he thinks his highest effective weight is Jnr Welterweight then he can only be accused of ducking if he refuses to fight any top Jnr Welterweights. If he thinks he can make Welterweight, he should fight at 147. There are too many weight classes as it is. Some people have been comparing Pac to Henry Armstrong, but there were only 8 divisions in Armstrong's day, and won the Welterweight title and cleaned out the division while still weighing in at only 135.

Seriously, no one will blink in the long run if he doesn't mess with Mosley. It's like the way JC Chavez left Terry Norris ALONE. Did he duck him? Why the hell would he have fought him in the first place. This is what happens when P4P nonsense turns the whole sports brains to mush. This isn't 1905 where a lack of cameras allows for safe exhibitions. These fights will have to be on the level.