Pacquiao's Adviser Says "Mosley at 144 is Too Much"

[Iceta]

See, this is the reason why Mosley just needs to suck it up and answer Paul Williams' call. There's chances that if Mosley can get him down to 147, he'll be able to beat a somewhat dehydrated version of him. But at the same time he would become the Ring champ at 147.

[mrosborne]

If you don't want to fight welterweights at welterweight, then stay the hell out of the class. This is absurd. How is Mosley going to make 142? Cut off some toes? This whole BS about who 'wants' the fight is just that. Pac needs to say plainly whether he wants to compete at welter (which he should not because he will get his ass kicked bad by a fresh welter badly sooner rather than later).

If he says he doesn't, go fight the winner of Bradley-Campbell or just wait for May and move on from this dumb conversation.

Yeah Cliff that's what I am always saying on here, but I get badmouthed left and right for it. It's very apparent you can't have it both ways. You either fight at 147 like you claimed you would for DLH and apply that theory to the entire division, or say hey you know what I knew I could beat an old weightdrained great in DLH but that was just bull**** anyway?

[trainhard_187]

whoa hatton and shot hoya ,ive said b4 and ill say it again how that makes pac #1 ill never know

Well then obviously you shouldnt be following boxing and should stick to figure skating cause it seems boxing is too complicated for you. Like I said, haters keep hating. And by the looks of it, it seems as if you just opened your account here. Earn some credentials on this forum before you start yapping your beak....!!!

[Dave Rado]

I like Floyd but really, fighting a lightweight fighter and considering himself P4P #1. Im sorry but thats more of a b$#^& move then Pac asking for a catch weight against fighters Floyd wont give a chance.

The Marquez fight is a tune-up after a 2 year break, it's not a legacy fight. If Floyd doesn't think he can get below 144 without being weight drained, then he shouldn't try. There are too many weight classes in boxing as it is, these catchweight fights are getting ridiculous, and boxing doesn't need another fight in which one fighter is weight drained.

You could validly say that Floyd should fight a Welterweight like Berto for his tune-up, rather than Marquez, but Marquez wouldn't thank you for saying that, because he sees this fight as his big chance. So giving him a shot wasn't a ***** move at all, because the alternative was to give someone else a shot instead, and that would have been very bad news from Marquez's point of view.

And I think Marquez will surprise people and make it more competitive than most people expect. He has the heart of a lion, and is more skilful than anyone Floyd has faced for a long time.

By contrast, Pac-Mosley would be (in theory, anyway) a legacy fight. Trying to force Mosley to come into the fight weight drained is worse than just a ***** move, it makes a complete travesty of boxing. It's nothing short of disgusting. But I hope Mosley and Cotto both stand their ground. If they do, Pac won't have many options, because Mayweather also won't fight him below 144.

I don't blame Pac, so much as his advisers, though.

[znarfv_y2k8]

Do you understand what ur talking about...?

Translation, "He's not drained enough, Pacquiao can only beat drained or shot fighters"

:gay:

Pacquiao solidified his legendary status & greatness after squaring w/ the Fabulous 4 encounters (w/ Barrera 2x, Marquez 2x & Morales 3x), not only 5wins-1loss-1draw record w/ the greats but has done it in exciting fashion...

He made fights at the higher weight levels of great risks to defy odds & not only as #1 P4P today but to prove the world his name is as synonymous to the Pound 4 Pound...

Furthermore, moving in weight to fight bigger champion was already a risky courageous act w/ the Lightweight Champion David Diaz no matter where Diaz stands among the best lightweights in his division...Other fights executed & won in brutal style w/ much much bigger Oscar at 147lbs. & the IBO Light Welterweight Champion Hatton who was considered undefeated champion at 140 lbs. was to solidify his status to where he stands among the all time greats...

If ever Pacquiao retires right now it doesn't change the fact of where he stands among the all time greats...whoever his next fights & no matter what the outcome is, Pacquiao remains an All Time Great...

[baracuda]

If you don't want to fight welterweights at welterweight, then stay the hell out of the class. This is absurd. How is Mosley going to make 142? Cut off some toes? This whole BS about who 'wants' the fight is just that. Pac needs to say plainly whether he wants to compete at welter (which he should not because he will get his ass kicked bad by a fresh welter badly sooner rather than later).

If he says he doesn't, go fight the winner of Bradley-Campbell or just wait for May and move on from this dumb conversation.

mosely is the one whos chasing pac....if you dont wanna fight a current jww then go chase someone else at your own weight class....tell that to mosely man...

[mrosborne]

See, this is the reason why Mosley just needs to suck it up and answer Paul Williams' call. There's chances that if Mosley can get him down to 147, he'll be able to beat a somewhat dehydrated version of him. But at the same time he would become the Ring champ at 147.

No, Mosley wants no part of the Punisher. He cannot fight people much bigger/taller with reach and boxing ability than his. If anything proves this Forrest and Wright does. Shane is one of the best in the business, but this are his weaknesses and nothing can be done about it. Paul is the absolute wrong fight for him in every conceivable way.

[freedom213]

this is getting absolutely ****in ridiculous! If Manny wants to fight the best of the best at 147, wants to be that guy who can transcend weight classes like some other greats than he needs to stop with the handy cap BS weight restrictions and fight these guys straight up. I can almost understand saying 145 but MHOP is even that is crap and simply taints a win if he can indeed get a W against the likes of Mosley, Cotto or Mayweather. Let me put it like this if he wants to beat Shane Mosley, who is a 147 pound fighter than using behind the scenes leverage to make him squeeze down to a weight that he cannot physically perform equates to not really beating Shane Mosley and is a chicken **** move. If he is a 140 pound fighter than fight the guys who can make 140 and drop all this BS.

[boxingfan76]

Well then obviously you shouldnt be following boxing and should stick to figure skating cause it seems boxing is too complicated for you. Like I said, haters keep hating. And by the looks of it, it seems as if you just opened your account here. Earn some credentials on this forum before you start yapping your beak....!!!

WHTEVER ****** YOUVE SO FAR ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE TO ME WITH INSULTS BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY CANT DEFEND THE TRUTH, so you switch to insults i lost my rent,figure skating blah bla blahdont have credentials what are yours exactly? being a ballsucker? drain those balls! Trained -IN -THE- ASS- HARD!! GET MAD I KNOW IT HURTS!!!

[freedom213]

No, Mosley wants no part of the Punisher. He cannot fight people much bigger/taller with reach and boxing ability than his. If anything proves this Forrest and Wright does. Shane is one of the best in the business, but this are his weaknesses and nothing can be done about it. Paul is the absolute wrong fight for him in every conceivable way.

R u really an Osborne? If so hows it goin cuz?