who's the better southpaw: hagler or pacquaio???

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  • portuge puncher
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    #101
    Originally posted by rocky_balboa23
    was the reign of Hagler 8 year? how bout the reign of Bhop? and the resume of Bhop? it's arguable but Hagler has a very strong case..still I think in years to come, people will talk bout the greatness of PAC esp if he beats MOney..while many people will also talk bout the Fab Four,Hagler just being one of them..Pac is greatness in the current era of boxing..
    incase you are unaware the current era is not all that great,
    and beaten mayweather is a big IF,
    and even if he did i MIGHT place him near of equal to hagler.

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      #102
      Originally posted by portuge puncher
      incase you are unaware the current era is not all that great,
      and beaten mayweather is a big IF,
      and even if he did i MIGHT place him near of equal to hagler.
      If he beat Floyd I'd might have to put him ahead of Hagler...but he won't beat Floyd tho.

      Beating Morales, Barrera, Marquez, Mayweather. That'd be 4 elite fighters...

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        #103
        Originally posted by Tek My Pounches
        Boxing skills, and height or size, are irrelevant to each other.



        I like Tyson as much as the next guy, but there is no way he could be considered greater than Leonard, neither can Lewis. Jones and Hopkins can be rightfully judged a few years after they retire, but I doubt they rate higher than Leonard.
        okay being a 20 yr old heavyweigh champ beats anything that leonard has done. tyson is arguably the goat, and i dont think leonard wouldve beaten pryor.

        as dfar as the whole height thing goes, its just like saying size doesnt make u a better basketball player. so why not have lebron james and allen iverson play a little one on one?

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          #104
          Originally posted by The_Executioner
          I'd prefer Hagler as far as boxing goes. Hagler had to beat a lotta people to be considered the best. He was always overshadowed by the golden boys of his era...he's highly respected though.
          it's like asking the question which would u prefer being Jordan (no. 1 of the last great Bball era) or being Isiah Thomas(part of the 3 greats Bird and Magic)? it's Pac's era now while Hagler was part of that Golden era( Fab 4)..
          ***Note- Im not saying Pac is the greatest boxer ala Jordan in Bball just an example of how important Pac's career is..***

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            #105
            Originally posted by mr.raines21
            okay being a 20 yr old heavyweigh champ beats anything that leonard has done. tyson is arguably the goat, and i dont think leonard wouldve beaten pryor.

            as dfar as the whole height thing goes, its just like saying size doesnt make u a better basketball player. so why not have lebron james and allen iverson play a little one on one?
            o yea, tyson is no where near as great as leonard, every boxing historian places him higher,

            mike beat tervor berbick for the title, that should tell you the whole story.

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              #106
              Originally posted by portuge puncher
              first of all hagler is 5'9, not 6'3 lol.

              second off he got robbed via a SPLIT DECISION to the greatest boxer in the last 30 years by pro judges scoring by amateur standards.
              Fixed it for ya'.

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                #107
                Originally posted by rocky_balboa23
                it's like asking the question which would u prefer being Jordan (no. 1 of the last great Bball era) or being Isiah Thomas(part of the 3 greats Bird and Magic)? it's Pac's era now while Hagler was part of that Golden era( Fab 4)..
                ***Note- Im not saying Pac is the greatest boxer ala Jordan in Bball just an example of how important Pac's career is..***
                Well to Hagler's defense he fought in a better era of fighters...if Marvin was around now he'd be even more of a monster.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by portuge puncher
                  incase you are unaware the current era is not all that great,
                  and beaten mayweather is a big IF,
                  and even if he did i MIGHT place him near of equal to hagler.
                  this era is not that bad compared to the time of the fab 4..and Bhop has fabulous wins against good to great fighters..if pac beats Money, i would place him in the top 15 of alltime..

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by mr.raines21
                    okay being a 20 yr old heavyweigh champ beats anything that leonard has done. tyson is arguably the goat, and i dont think leonard wouldve beaten pryor.

                    as dfar as the whole height thing goes, its just like saying size doesnt make u a better basketball player. so why not have lebron james and allen iverson play a little one on one?
                    your whole post makes no sense.
                    Pryor beating Leonard=laughable
                    20 year old HW champ>anything=sad

                    how are you going to say that Tyson is arguably the GOAT, and then say that height is a huge difference in boxing, as much as basketball. Tyson was short for a HW, goofball.

                    please, I like all boxing fans, but your posts are very misinformed.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by rocky_balboa23
                      this era is not that bad compared to the time of the fab 4..and Bhop has fabulous wins against good to great fighters..if pac beats Money, i would place him in the top 15 of alltime..
                      i doubt it, maybe top 30 or even 25, not sure about 15,
                      but thats a big IF.


                      im out for tonight, the poll is very close, i look forward to seeing who won in the morning.

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