David Haye Was Medically Cleared For July 25 To Fight

[shade darkar]

That's what the man on the TV tells you, isn't it? And like the **** followed the Pied Piper, you believe everything you hear Bunce say on TV.

If you watched boxing more objectively and attentively, you'd see there are a lot of talented young heavyweights coming out of mainland Europe like Helenius, Dimitrenko and Boytsov.

you can presume all you like. everybody knows the heavyweight division is rubbish right now. iv never heard of the 3 fighters you just mentioned, if they were that talented i might have heard of them. No amount of rubbish from you will make anybody say that the heavyweight division is exciting right now.

[The Hammer]

you can presume all you like. everybody knows the heavyweight division is rubbish right now. iv never heard of the 3 fighters you just mentioned, if they were that talented i might have heard of them. No amount of rubbish from you will make anybody say that the heavyweight division is exciting right now.

You've never heard of them because they are neither British nor American.

I'm surprised anybody could be too ****** to understand that.

I bet you don't even know the names of the fighters who won Gold at heavyweight and super-heavyweight at the 2008 Olympics. Nor do you know the name of the featherweight boxer who was selected as best overall.

[shade darkar]

You've never heard of them because they are neither British nor American.

I'm surprised anybody could be too ****** to understand that.

I bet you don't even know the names of the fighters who won Gold at heavyweight and super-heavyweight at the 2008 Olympics. Nor do you know the name of the featherweight boxer who was selected as best overall.

ok, iv heard of cotto, margarito, marquez etc, who are not british or american. your right, i didnt watch the olympics. I am right tho, that you cant admit the heavyweight division is crap.

[#1Assassin]

Ali is an ATG. But he can be soooo boring. Clinches twice as much as Klitschko by the way (I stopwatched), KOs seldomly and has no defense whatsoever. You cannot consider Klitschko a boring fighter without considering Ali an even more boring fighter.

Just watch Ali vs Norton, any round any time: Basically all of Norton's jabs land, even the slowest ones. HOW CAN THIS CRAP BE GOOD?

Or watch Ali vs Earnie Terrell (WBA world heavyweight title, Terell at that time 38-4). Ali runs away the whole fight, Terell has no clue what to do, as soon as he comes closer to Ali, Ali clinches, grabs his neck and insults him. Ali lands some weak shots (how could they be strong when he is punching while running backwards?). My god ANY modern heavy would walk THROUGH Terell. Ali went 15 rounds with him. Ali's record is full of such "good guys" like Terell.

• Ali had merely 15 (FIFTEEN!) KOs in his entire heavyweight career (200+) How can this be exciting?
• 7 of these KOs were against bums like Miteff (26-13) or Besmanoff (51-34).
• The rest against doubtful opposition like
  • half-blind Frazier
  • probably drugged Foreman
  • gunshot-wounded Cleveland Williams
  • Jimmy Ellis who boxed as low as 155 lbs.
• Ali's record has a lot of such doubtful opponents like
  • 25 years older Archie Moore
  • George Chuvalo, who is actually OK but has lost 12 of his 19 bouts against somewhat good 200+ opponents
• Ali's AVERAGE opponent was 205 lbs. Wlad IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER HAS not fought anyone as low as that.
• Ali's HEAVIEST OPPONENT he ever KOed within 12 was 223 lbs. That is lighter than Wlads AVERAGE opponent.
• Remember Wlad vs Ibragimov? The small guy (Ibragimov) was as heavy as Foreman when Ali fought him.

Get real people. Ali's fights were basically pumped up cruiserweight fights. Basically what the cruiser division is now. Noone is interested in that anymore. Watch some real heavyweight fights like Lennox vs Klitschko or Platov vs Williams.

ali was exciting. the speed, timing, rhytm and skills were beautiful to watch. poetry in motion.

wlad is boring, he fights fat slobs with no will. if ali fought rahman he wouldve annhilated him in exciting fashion. wlad just pawed jabs at him until he collapsed form an asthma attack. thats not exciting.

as for all the size BS. todays HWs are bigger, but the old school HWs were superior in pretty much every other way and would humiliate the HWs of today.

[StarshipTrooper]

1. That is because they upgrade his cruiserfights to heavyweight fights. Just like Toney is suddenly a heavyweight with a *cough* heavyweight record of 71-6 JUST BECAUSE he got fatter. You have to count cruiserweight opponents for the cruiserweight record and keep them out of the heavyweight record.
2. Obviously they are not comparing records but "some fights of Ali" with "some fights of someone else". A basic mistake in all comparisons. You cannot compare merely someone's best performance and neglect the whole career.

Ali is an ATG. But he can be soooo boring. Clinches twice as much as Klitschko by the way (I stopwatched), KOs seldomly and has no defense whatsoever. You cannot consider Klitschko a boring fighter without considering Ali an even more boring fighter.

Just watch Ali vs Norton, any round any time: Basically all of Norton's jabs land, even the slowest ones. HOW CAN THIS CRAP BE GOOD?

Or watch Ali vs Earnie Terrell (WBA world heavyweight title, Terell at that time 38-4). Ali runs away the whole fight, Terell has no clue what to do, as soon as he comes closer to Ali, Ali clinches, grabs his neck and insults him. Ali lands some weak shots (how could they be strong when he is punching while running backwards?). My god ANY modern heavy would walk THROUGH Terell. Ali went 15 rounds with him. Ali's record is full of such "good guys" like Terell.

• Ali had merely 15 (FIFTEEN!) KOs in his entire heavyweight career (200+) How can this be exciting?
• 7 of these KOs were against bums like Miteff (26-13) or Besmanoff (51-34).
• The rest against doubtful opposition like
  • half-blind Frazier
  • probably drugged Foreman
  • gunshot-wounded Cleveland Williams
  • Jimmy Ellis who boxed as low as 155 lbs.
• Ali's record has a lot of such doubtful opponents like
  • 25 years older Archie Moore
  • George Chuvalo, who is actually OK but has lost 12 of his 19 bouts against somewhat good 200+ opponents
• Ali's AVERAGE opponent was 205 lbs. Wlad IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER HAS not fought anyone as low as that.
• Ali's HEAVIEST OPPONENT he ever KOed within 12 was 223 lbs. That is lighter than Wlads AVERAGE opponent.
• Remember Wlad vs Ibragimov? The small guy (Ibragimov) was as heavy as Foreman when Ali fought him.

Get real people. Ali's fights were basically pumped up cruiserweight fights. Basically what the cruiser division is now. Noone is interested in that anymore. Watch some real heavyweight fights like Lennox vs Klitschko or Platov vs Williams.

You're not just an alt you're a ****** alt to boot. For one thing there was no such thing as a "Cruiserweight" Division when Ali was fighting, for another the Cruiserweight Division is just another bogus invention of the alphabet groups to create more titles and collect more sanctioning fees.

Ali in his prime fought at 205 to 210 so he was hardly beating up on people tremendously smaller than himself.

Ali had 37 stoppages not 15 which makes for a KO% of 60.7. Before you make a moronic post you should at least check your "facts" first.

And finally, most people are watching the smaller weight classes these days as no one is really interested in watching two morbidly obese tubs of lard hug each other ie. your typical Heavyweight fight these days.

Poet

[#1Assassin]

You're not just an alt you're a ****** alt to boot. For one thing there was no such thing as a "Cruiserweight" Division when Ali was fighting, for another the Cruiserweight Division is just another bogus invention of the alphabet groups to create more titles and collect more sanctioning fees.

Ali in his prime fought at 205 to 210 so he was hardly beating up on people tremendously smaller than himself.

Ali had 37 stoppages not 15 which makes for a KO% of 60.7. Before you make a moronic post you should at least check your "facts" first.

And finally, most people are watching the smaller weight classes these days as no one is really interested in watching two morbidly obese tubs of lard hug each other ie. your typical Heavyweight fight these days.

Poet

now that was an assassination knn got verbally manhandled.

[Dave Rado]

ali was exciting. the speed, timing, rhytm and skills were beautiful to watch. poetry in motion.

It's amazing that people can call themselves boxing fans and yet fail to appreciate that. They're like someone who claims to be a fan of literature, and says that Enid Blyton was greater than Shakespeare because she's written more books.

[StarshipTrooper]

For the record knn is either Tunney's alt or that of one his cronies. This is what they do (besides rip down past greats because it's the only way they can make the Klitschkos look good): Make alt accounts and use them to make posts in support of their main account. Kind of like an artificial fan club except it's one dude applauding himself under different names.

Poet

[The Hammer]

For the record knn is either Tunney's alt or that of one his cronies. This is what they do (besides rip down past greats because it's the only way they can make the Klitschkos look good): Make alt accounts and use them to make posts in support of their main account. Kind of like an artificial fan club except it's one dude applauding himself under different names.

Poet

knn is not my alt. The site admin can verify I have no alts.

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[StarshipTrooper]

knn is not my alt. The site admin can verify I have no alts.

I saw from your videos you need some work done on your teeth, Poet. Can't you afford it?

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