Klitschko vs. Chagaev is Set For June 20 in Germany

[Dave Rado]

according to boxrec it seems that it is for all the titles:

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...7035&cat=boxer

You forgot to read the small print where it says "bout subject to commission approval / change". The WBA hasn't sanctioned it or even ruled on the Chagaev-Valuev fight fall-out.

[The Hammer]

Haye hasn't even spoken to the press yet. It was Booth who said that his doctor in Cyprus had advised that he could be ready by July 11. But Haye subsequently had more tests by a different doctor in London, who presumably thought it would take longer. You can accuse Booth of jumping the gun or of being over-optimistic, but to accuse him of lying is just idiotic. What would he have had to gain by intentionally lying? Nothing. It would just make him look silly, and have no possible advantages for him at all.

David Haye was quoted in articles here, as well as on the ESPN website, on the ESB and elsewhere as saying he wanted to reschedule the fight to July 11. Haye spoke to Bunce on Thursday on his show.

I don't know how you could have missed it.

[Ray*]

You cant really blame anyone for whatever decision they choose in this situation, injuries happens all the time and its up to the people involve to make a decision on what to do next, If HBO doesnt want to screen te fight then thats their business.

I personally dont want to go over to germany for a Chagaev/Wlad fight because i can see it on TV.

[Dave Rado]

David Haye was quoted in articles here, as well as on the ESPN website, on the ESB and elsewhere as saying he wanted to reschedule the fight to July 11. Haye spoke to Bunce on Thursday.

I don't know how you could have missed it.

It was Booth who spoke to Bunce. If any press articles said it was Haye, they were inaccurate.

[Dave Rado]

Alright, I must confess, I didn't realize that Chagaev fought in February. I was thinking that he hadn't fought in over a year, and that is why I didn't really agree with his ranking. Nonetheless, I still don't think that a fight between him and Wlad should be for the Ring title. #2 ranked Vitali, the former Ring champion, came back from retirement and has so far beaten two top ten heavyweights while claiming the WBC title. Although the two brothers will never fight, a fight between them would be the only way to determine the true HW champ.

There could never be a fight between the two brothers, and The Ring policy has always been that if a fight between the #1 and #2 can't be made, then a fight between the #1 and #3 will be for The Ring title. They are being entirely consistent with the policy they have always had, and all genuine boxing fans should be glad there will be an undisputed champion in the division at last after so many years.

[Dave Rado]

the bottom line is haye pulled out of the fight, that makes him the coward.

Did you accuse Povetkin of being a coward when he pulled out of his fight with Wlad? Or Vitali, when he pulled out of numerous fights with Rahman? If not, GTFOOH with your double standards.

[illumin8ed66]

There could never be a fight between the two brothers, and The Ring policy has always been that if a fight between the #1 and #2 can't be made, then a fight between the #1 and #3 will be for The Ring title. They are being entirely consistent with the policy they have always had, and all genuine boxing fans should be glad there will be an undisputed champion in the division at last after so many years.

Having #1 And #3 face off for the Ring title is done only when both fighters have beaten similar competition, etc. and have comparable records. It's not always the rule that #1 and #3 face off if #2 isn't available. Remember Margarito vs. Mosley? Plus, Chagaev has pulled out like 3 times against Valuev, hasn't he? They need to resolve the mess they've made of the WBA title first, for one thing. I honestly think it's a decent fight, and that it'll clear some things up in the division, but I just don't agree that it should be for the Ring title. Not with Vitali being such a force at #2.

[Lacrimosa]

60,000 people are not going to be turning up for this as all the British tickets holders will be returning there tickets.

That would be scary... Just imagine those Germans left on the stadium... They will be silent... Deathly silent...

[knn]

Wlad was asking for ridiculous UK television money among other demands, taking advantage of Haye's desperation to fight him and trying his best to avoid the fight until he was embarrassed into it.

Everyone needs to read this the quote above. Just as I claimed: Pooor pooor Haye, so deserving and Wlad took the first chance out...

aha...they're just opinions, and it's got **** all to do with national bias as I've said plenty of times I was picking Wlad by KO.

Whom you pick is irrelevant. How you spin facts is my point.

Young was a very skilled fighter with wins over Ali, Foreman, Shavers (scored a draw but he won), Lyle X2

Young was a bum. That he won against Foreman tells more about Foreman than about Young.
He LOST/DREW against Shavers. Get over it.
He LOST against Ali. Don't make things up.

Jimmy Young has a heavyweight career record of 20(4KOs)-12 (where both fighters are 200+). He is a bum. That he won against Foreman doesn't make him a non-bum, otherwise Puritty would be worldclass too.

Oh Jesus... LMAO!! Is there anything else you'd like to add to this dribble? I suppose you reckon Shavers was feather fisted?

Earnie Shavers had 56 fight against 200+ opponents of which he KOed 38. 32 (of these 38) were bums. How bummy? VERY BUMMY. Their median career record is 5-17 (yes, 5 wins and 17 losses). KOs against such guys are meaningless.

How many KOs did Shavers actually score in world heavyweight fights? ZERO. The two times he fought for a heavyweight title he LOST.

No, Shavers wasn't a heavyweight featherfist (Ali was a featherfist, just like Frazier, Holyfield and Byrd).

Shavers was a KOer of bums.

[Dave Rado]

Having #1 And #3 face off for the Ring title is done only when both fighters have beaten similar competition, etc. and have comparable records. It's not always the rule that #1 and #3 face off if #2 isn't available. Remember Margarito vs. Mosley?

It's always the rule that if the #1 and #3 fight, it's at the discretion of The Ring whether they recognise it for the Ring title or not. In the case of the Margarito vs. Mosley fight, they decided not to partly because Margarito had unfinished business with Williams, and partly because Mosley had unfinished business with Cotto. In the case of Wlad-Chagaev, because the #1 and #2 can never fight, it was a slam dunk that the #1 and #3 should be for the title.

Plus, Chagaev has pulled out like 3 times against Valuev, hasn't he?

No it was Valuev who pulled out of the last fight, not Chagaev. Chagaev had extremely low, non-infectious levels of Hepatitis antigen in his blood. In almost any country in the world other than Finland, the fight would have gone ahead, but Finland has stricter (i.e. over-cautious) rules. And it was Valuev who wanted the fight to take place in Finland rather than Germany. Even then, Valuev was told the fight could proceed as long as he had a vaccination, but he refused to have one. Funny how no one is saying Wlad shouldn't fight Chagaev because of the risk of infection - that's because there is no risk of infection.