Klitschko vs. Chagaev is Set For June 20 in Germany

[knn]

Are you acquainted with the meaning of the word 'hypocrite'?

The difference is that I wrote "maybe" while he wrote "genuinly injured". Big difference.

[leff]

These people you speak of are all Germans. Ghegs has a major following in Germany and so does Klits. So WTF you talkin bout?

me and 3 friends are going and were all happy with chagaev, he is more deserving than haye, has done more at hw, is undeafeted....

[Leo Pradun]

the bottom line is haye pulled out of the fight, that makes him the coward. Some of you on here make no sense saying Wlad shoudl wait again after he agreed to fight haye june 20th instead of fighting in april when he wanted too, now he has to wait again? Hell no. No way haye would have been ready by the 11th not even by the 25th. Haye pulls out of the fight 2 weeks before fight night and Wlad is the coward cause he hasnt faught this year yet waiting for Haye and he wants to keep the June 20th date to fight the undefeated wba champion Chagaev. What does haye bring to the table except trash talk? I dont get all this hate on here for Wlad

[The Hammer]

1) Negotiation with Wlad is easy as is proven by the counless other opponents that he had and by the quick negotations with Chagaev.
2) The contract with Haye is a 2-option contract. Not 7-option like some Don King contracts! It says: Should Haye win then there is a rematch and should Haye win again then he fights Vitali. This is the BEST FAN-FRIENDLY CONTRACT ever seen. Tell me which fan would not like to see a 2-times-Wlad-conquerer fight against Vitali. Moreover this contract is also Haye-friendly because he gets a guaranteed shot at Wlad AND Vitali.
3) Haye not only flipflopped but he robbed us of 1 Klitschko fight, since Klitschko would have fought in March already against some other opponent had not Haye prolonged the negotiations and wrong promises (like that he could get a stadium in the UK etc).
4) Who says that Haye got "genuinly injured"? Maybe he increased his inflammation/injury risk because of steroid abuse?
5) Haye's "3 weeks" was mere speculation. It now got increased to "5 weeks" which then could increase to "3 months".
6) You write "I've nothing against Wlad" but then you fill up your post with adjectives like "reluctant", "crazy" and "ducking".

Stick to the facts next time.

Excellent post.

[Texanballer]

looks like this is official now. I hope Chagaev dosent pull out.

[Dave Rado]

Bull ****! Wlad is ***en garbage! Hbo knows what they are doing! They know nobody wants to see him unless its against haye or arreola.

HBO has screened much, much worse Wlad fights than this one, and this is the most significant Heavyweight fight for years, because it's for the lineal title, meaning there will be an undisputed Heavyweight champion at last. Anyone who doesn't want this fight to happen isn't really a fan of the sport.

And to call him garbage is just ridiculous. He's over-cautious in the ring, and you may not like his style, but he's a highly skilled boxer and has always fought the best competition he could.

[Dave Rado]

Firstly they said it was a hand injury and now it's a back injury? Seems like they don't even know.

You're confusing uninformed press speculation with public statements. Booth's email to Boente didn't say what the nature of the injury was, it just said he was injured. The press then saw fit to speculate. The next day Booth said what the injury was.

[knn]

***** move by Wlad, what a *****!

He will be ****ing esctatic that he's found a way out of this fight. I expected him to beat Haye soundly but he never wanted any of him.

Wlad agrees to fight Haye -> "Poor Haye, has to rematch if he wins".
Wlad refuses to wait another 1-2 months -> "Poor Haye, Wlad ******* out".
Wlad fights the highest topranked available substitute -> "Wlad is handpicking nonames"
Wlad beats Haye -> "Poor Haye, had a sore back. Wlad only won because of his size and reach advantage. Haye is better p4p"

Wake up.

[Dave Rado]

Three weeks was what Haye said, but he was lying.

Haye hasn't even spoken to the press yet. It was Booth who said that his doctor in Cyprus had advised that he could be ready by July 11. But Haye subsequently had more tests by a different doctor in London, who presumably thought it would take longer. You can accuse Booth of jumping the gun or of being over-optimistic, but to accuse him of lying is just idiotic. What would he have had to gain by intentionally lying? Nothing. It would just make him look silly, and have no possible advantages for him at all.

[Vivid Intent]

1) Negotiation with Wlad is easy as is proven by the counless other opponents that he had and by the quick negotations with Chagaev.

Quick negotiations with the man with hep only shows how much he fears Haye

He's bitching about Haye not being garanteed to fight so he finds a replacement that was scheduled to fight recently but couldn't.....good one!!

2) The contract with Haye is a 2-option contract. Not 7-option like some Don King contracts! It says: Should Haye win then there is a rematch and should Haye win again then he fights Vitali. This is the BEST FAN-FRIENDLY CONTRACT ever seen. Tell me which fan would not like to see a 2-times-Wlad-conquerer fight against Vitali. Moreover this contract is also Haye-friendly because he gets a guaranteed shot at Wlad AND Vitali.

Yeah because they're looking out for the interests of Haye and boxing fans, get a grip mate ffs. These are some deep demands for an opponent who is supposedly so low a risk, wouldn't you think? Or his your head to far up Wlad's rectum to see this objectively? [rhetorical question as it's clear what the answer is]

3) Haye not only flipflopped but he robbed us of 1 Klitschko fight, since Klitschko would have fought in March already against some other opponent had not Haye prolonged the negotiations and wrong promises (like that he could get a stadium in the UK etc).

Don't blame Haye for Wlad being a ***** and the negotiations being per-longed. Neither Klitschko were 100% sure who would be even fighting Haye, it would have been big bro sweeping up the mess if he didn't have to go ahead with his mando. Wlad was asking for ridiculous UK television money among other demands, taking advantage of Haye's desperation to fight him and trying his best to avoid the fight until he was embarrassed into it.

4) Who says that Haye got "genuinly injured"? Maybe he increased his inflammation/injury risk because of steroid abuse?

He said he's sending a medical letter to Wlad's camp, why would he pull out of the biggest purse of his life when he'd been hounding Wlad for a year? Your head is rather fried isn't it...

5) Haye's "3 weeks" was mere speculation. It now got increased to "5 weeks" which then could increase to "3 months".
6) You write "I've nothing against Wlad" but then you fill up your post with adjectives like "reluctant", "crazy" and "ducking".

Haha...they're just opinions, and it's got **** all to do with national bias as I've said plenty of times I was picking Wlad by KO.

BTW, thanks to the Bitchko groupies for the red k.

Jimmy Young has 24 wins vs 15 losses. Of the 24 wins 14 are bums (= lost 25%+ of their fights in their career). How many 200lbs+ non-bums did Jimmy Young KO in his career? TWO. How many world titles did he win? ZERO.

Jimmy Young is a heavyweight bum.

Young was a very skilled fighter with wins over Ali, Foreman, Shavers (scored a draw but he won), Lyle X2

You really are an ignorant prick.

EVEN KEN NORTON has a better record

You say that like Norton was ****

Joe Frazier is also second league with 15 wins vs 4 losses. Of these 15 wins 7 were against bums (with a median career record of 25-14). Frazier has scored 4 KOs against non-bums. Yawn.

Oh Jesus... LMAO!! Is there anything else you'd like to add to this dribble? I suppose you reckon Shavers was feather fisted?