Wladimir Klitschko is better off Fighting Ruslan Chagaev

[Dave Rado]

what is the reason that many fighter talk a lot of trash? to pump themselves up. it is always the quiet guy that u have to worry about - cause he is calculated, calm, focused, and would rather do his job than talk about it.

Yeah, fighters like Ali, Duran, Tyson and Floyd were never anything to worry about.

[BrooklynBomber]

Yeah, fighters like Ali, Tyson and Floyd were never anything to worry about.

Tyson at his best was a very calm and polite man, it is the Tyson that lost to Lewis and a bunch of others that was talking ****.

However, in real life, outside the ring, in the conflict, one should not worry about trash talked, the really dangerous opponent would not need to trash talk and will go for your throat right away.

[vitali1999]

And certainly not for money - the idea of trying to beat up one's own brother for money is just sick, IMO.

Thank you, atleast somebody agrees with me, remember Rahman vs Barrett, they werent even brothers, they were friends, and they pulled there punches.

[Dave Rado]

Tyson at his best was a very calm and polite man, it is the Tyson that lost to Lewis and a bunch of others that was talking ****.

However, in real life, outside the ring, in the conflict, one should not worry about trash talked, the really dangerous opponent would not need to trash talk and will go for your throat right away.

Wouldn't need to, of course, but are you saying Ali, Duran and Floyd needed to? They did it to sell tickets and to get under their opponents' skin, not because they needed to.

[Dave Rado]

As far as bringing clarity to the heavyweight division, this is the better fight. But as a fight itself, from an entertainment standpoint and from a competitive standpoint, I think this will be worse, stylistically, this fight has all the makings for a stinker, possibly a one sided stinker.

There a great article on the style match-up here:

David Haye is more of a fighter than Ruslan Chagaev. That doesn’t mean he’s a better boxer, and that doesn’t mean Chagaev can’t hit. After all, it’s Chagaev – and not Haye – who has a universal Top 5 ranking in the heavyweight division, along with seventeen stoppages in twenty-five wins.

But consider each fighter’s last four fights. In Chagaev’s last four outings, neither he nor his opponent produced a knockdown in forty-eight rounds. In Haye’s last four ring encounters, he and his adversary amassed a total of twelve knockdowns in a mere fifteen stanzas. Haye also scored four knockout wins. Chagaev won four decisions. And while Chagaev does carry respectable power, he tends to stick-and-move against bigger, more powerful opponents, as he did in his bouts against Nikolai Valuev and Vladmir Virchis. For better or worse, Haye fights every opponent the same way, and that way tends to produce more cheers than jeers and more trips to the canvas than quips from the crowd.

Wladimir Klitschko hasn’t been in a truly exciting scrap for years. And it’s unlikely Chagaev would go after Klitschko like Haye would, just as it’s unlikely that Klitschko could score the sensational knockout on Chagaev that he could score on the oft wide-open Haye.

It’s telling that Manny Pacquiao is looking towards Edwin Valero as his only non-superstar prospective opponent looking away from Timothy Bradley. Bradley is an undefeated titlist and a career junior welterweight. Valero is a brand-new lightweight. But Valero is a puncher. Valero is exciting. Like Haye, Valero has that thrill factor. Bradley doesn’t, or at least not to the same extent as Valero.

It’s likely that the Klitschko camp will have chosen Chagaev by the time this article posts. But Wladimir Klitschko doesn’t need the RING title to boost his profile. He needs that thrill factor. David Haye could give it to him, if Klitschko is willing.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

I'll be happy if he fights either fighter....

[Boxing Scene]

OK who's the idiot in the thread that said Haye was better than Chagaev?

[The Hammer]

I agree. Actually, I have no problem fighting my friends in the ring and they have no problems punching me in the face or their brothers' either. Hell, I don't know any brothers that didn't beat the crap out of one another growing up. The Klits won't fight one another, we know that. Luckily, (whether you like the fight or nor, and I don't it will be near as boring as Wlad/Ibragimov) this fight, if it happens, with Chagaev will give us a linear champion.

Yes. The heavyweight division needs a Ring and linear champion.

Haye will have to earn his fight with Wlad. But unlike Chagaev, there's no way he will ever defeat three Ring top ten heavyweights.

Let Haye fight someone like Valuev, Johnson or Arreola.

[Dave Rado]

According to the Daily Telegraph:

Wladimir Klitschko confirms go-ahead without David Haye on June 20

However, Bonte said the door would be left ajar for Haye, possible for next year. Bonte said: “Klitschko would syill be interested in fighting Haye down the line”.

“Obviously we are still talking money with Chagaev and there are details to sort with the WBA [the unbeaten Chagaev is World Boxing Association ‘champion in recess’] but we are looking to go ahead with it if it can be all be signed up.”

Bonte added: “If David Haye could guarantee that he would be fit for July 11, then we would probably have gone ahead and re-scheduled, but there is no guarantee and this is the worry – that it could happen again.”

“If the injury did recur and there is no guarantee that it would not, it would leave Wladimir in a difficult situation, because if he then had to cancel again, it would mean that when he comes to fight again, he would not have made a defence of his title for nine months.”

Fair enough.

I hope Haye tries to make a fight with Arreola instead ...

I wonder why the article spells Boente's name "Bonte"? Odd. Several other typos in the article as well ...

[Mr. Philadel]

There a great article on the style match-up here:

David Haye is more of a fighter than Ruslan Chagaev. That doesn’t mean he’s a better boxer, and that doesn’t mean Chagaev can’t hit. After all, it’s Chagaev – and not Haye – who has a universal Top 5 ranking in the heavyweight division, along with seventeen stoppages in twenty-five wins.

But consider each fighter’s last four fights. In Chagaev’s last four outings, neither he nor his opponent produced a knockdown in forty-eight rounds. In Haye’s last four ring encounters, he and his adversary amassed a total of twelve knockdowns in a mere fifteen stanzas. Haye also scored four knockout wins. Chagaev won four decisions. And while Chagaev does carry respectable power, he tends to stick-and-move against bigger, more powerful opponents, as he did in his bouts against Nikolai Valuev and Vladmir Virchis. For better or worse, Haye fights every opponent the same way, and that way tends to produce more cheers than jeers and more trips to the canvas than quips from the crowd.

Wladimir Klitschko hasn’t been in a truly exciting scrap for years. And it’s unlikely Chagaev would go after Klitschko like Haye would, just as it’s unlikely that Klitschko could score the sensational knockout on Chagaev that he could score on the oft wide-open Haye.

It’s telling that Manny Pacquiao is looking towards Edwin Valero as his only non-superstar prospective opponent looking away from Timothy Bradley. Bradley is an undefeated titlist and a career junior welterweight. Valero is a brand-new lightweight. But Valero is a puncher. Valero is exciting. Like Haye, Valero has that thrill factor. Bradley doesn’t, or at least not to the same extent as Valero.

It’s likely that the Klitschko camp will have chosen Chagaev by the time this article posts. But Wladimir Klitschko doesn’t need the RING title to boost his profile. He needs that thrill factor. David Haye could give it to him, if Klitschko is willing.

nice article .......it really hits the facts!!