Celestino Caballaro: "Juan Manuel Lopez is a Chicken"

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  • PRPOWERPUNCHES
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    #111
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    hmmm..... are you talking about PBF or JML?


    I don't think JML is being unrealistic, but he's gotta let vasquez and marquez get some tune ups. he can't be trying to catch them after 3 war and a long layoff. that's a biitch move.


    sounds like PBF talk to me... it's hypocritical to ***** on floyd for talking like that and then turn around and say its ok for JML. not saying that you do that, but if you do, then its hypocritical.


    caballero has 2 belts tho. neither guy should get the lion's share imho.


    good point here. but cabalero has the hardware and JML has the money, then the purse split should be pretty even.


    c'mon man... u are pretty biased. but who isn't.


    its possible that he is, considering vasquez and marquez just went through 3 career ending wars and a long lay off. at this particular moment in time, caballero could actually be a tougher challenge.


    man i dunno. vasquez and marquez are bigger names, but they been to hell and back. can't really gauge if they're past it now or not.


    well caballero does have 2 belts to JML's 1. he has an valid case for his argument.


    when did that happen? who did JML beat to be the new 122 pound king?


    these dudes just fought 3 career ending fights. I think they deserve a tune up and some leeway.



    come on, Ricans, I like JML and I think he is the future at 130-122 lbs, but this is the present not the future. JML needs to not talk like he's PBF and JML fans need to not make excuses and arguments like PBF fans.
    I agree, kill a killer and you become a killer.

    When both fighters have opted out of fighting you then what does that make you?

    Juanma will fight both of the top dogs at 122 but they don't want him.

    P.S. PULLcounter, when ru and the rest of the kunckle heads around here going to stop generalizing Puerto Ricans and stop calling us "U Ricans" this
    "U Ricans" that? Now lets flip the script and I start calling everybody by there nationality. You crackers this, You Negros that, You Africans, You Pollocks, u ***ing Mexican. You see, where I'm coming from? Why don't you counter pull my **** in your mouth and maybe that a stop u from Uing us Puerto Ricans around here?

    Stop before it gets worst, just a warning!


    PRPP

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    • Pullcounter
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      #112
      Originally posted by PRPOWERPUNCHES
      I agree, kill a killer and you become a killer.

      When both fighters have opted out of fighting you then what does that make you?

      Juanma will fight both of the top dogs at 122 but they don't want him.
      you talking about vasquez and marquez? don't you think those 2 deserve a few tune ups after the 3 wars they just went through? ONly a douche bag wouldn't agree.


      [B][I]P.S. PULLcounter, when ru and the rest of the kunckle heads around here going to stop generalizing Puerto Ricans and stop calling us "U Ricans" this "U Ricans" that?
      probably never, cause ricans along w/ mexicans are some of the most biased posters on this board.

      Now lets flip the script and I start calling everybody by there nationality. You crackers this, You Negros that, You Africans, You Pollocks, u ***ing Mexican.
      go ahead, just don't use racial slurs.

      You see, where I'm coming from?
      yup

      Why don't you counter pull my **** in your mouth and maybe that a stop u from Uing us Puerto Ricans around here?
      gross... are you gay?

      Stop before it gets worst, just a warning!
      PRPP
      I didn't know Rican was a racial slur.

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      • Underdoggg
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        #113
        Lopez always says, "Puerto Rico, you will have a champion for a long time." (Referring to himself). It's easy to say that when he fights pure punching bags. Those were all guys with no defense and get easily hit by JML's hard punches. De leon's defense is terrible, so it made JML look spectacular. The guys he fought after that weren't SHlT. Everytime Caballero calls him out he comes up with excuses. Only Mayweather does that kind of ducking. He don't want Caballero because he knows he won't be able to reach his chin easily. A real champion like he claims he is ducks no one. But I guess for him it's easier said than done.

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        • Iceta
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          #114
          People need to cool the hype down on Caballero. That guy really lost his last fight according to a lot of boxing experts that witnessed it. I've only seen him fight a couple of times. I've seen his fight with Molitor and I also saw his fight with a lightly regarded opponent on the undercard of the second fight of Vasquez and Marquez. When I saw his match with the Mexican he looked really vulnerable to me. There is no way this guy can beat Juan Ma Lopez. If the fight happens, great. But Lopez will crush him big time.

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          • mellow_mood
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            #115
            please juanma !!!

            make some noise tomorrow!!!!!!

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            • Eaner0919
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              #116
              and they said I was all emotional

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              • Del Coqui
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                #117
                Originally posted by Eaner0919
                quite simply

                you make a claim that they do not want anything to do with JuanMa, after years of fighting anyone anytime honestly screams of national bias AND just lack of knowledge

                sorry but its the truth and if think its disrespectful then why dont YOU try and be more respectful to the fighters you just claimed didn't want any

                works both ways I guess now doesn't it?



                and what makes you think they won't? as far as I can tell I have never seen anything to the extent of

                "Izzy and Rafa wont no part of JuanMa!" anywhere in the press for you to make that grand statement.



                actually not true I have heard from several sources that Rafa had some neuro issues and that was why this comeback fight was delayed so often



                and went through three surgeries to even be allowed to fight again maybe you should give the man a break and actually let him get back to training before alluding to that he dont want any of JuanMa



                he has talked about 26 for a while now so I dont know why this changes because JuanMa is now calling.



                and again show me where Rafa has said he wont fight Lopez thats all I ask from you. Your deduction that since Rafa is moving to 126 he is ducking is far fetched considering his resume and track record for fighting whoever.



                my goodness who is emotional? LOL

                he hasn't even fought yet you now want to call Izzy a ducker because he is finally moving up to 126 when he has talked about it for years. The only reason he even stayed at 122 was to fight Rafa and now that he has done that he wants to move up I don't see the segway into now that means he is ducking JuanMa.



                you dont think he has?



                you dont know anymore than I do whether it is or isnt but at least there is a proven track record between the two as to putting each other through their toughest fights.



                no argument about that it would indeed be a nice fight but it still doesn't show just how both do not want any part of JuanMa now does it?



                in December on a PPV that is known as the worst UC in PPV history. Cong****!



                against a soft touch....oh wait a minute why is he picking on a soft touch? shouldn't he be taking on the best like a true champ?



                has he drawn outside of PR? not bashing just curious to know. also what were the final attendance figures for the Penalosa fight? I know they expected 12,000 but didn't see the final tally

                Lopez is great and I am a fan (ask Mellow Mood) but to say either Rafa or Izzy are both either afraid or do not want any of him is indeed dumb man sorry but like I said it just smells of national bias and nothing more
                LOL, I'm not gonna go with all the quoting, takes forever, I'll break it down to you thou.

                You can call me ****** all you want, this is the internet, I don't mind you calling me ******, I just said you're either disrespectful or you're are very emotional, could be hormones, change of life, personal problems.....LOL, whatever old man, let's just start disrespecting each other, I dont mind, eventhou I would prefer to argue in a respectful way, have it your way.

                What makes me think they wont? Maybe the fact that retirement is closing in on both fighters, the fact that the fight at 22 would make THAT much more sense, and the fact they said they wanted to fight, yet Vazquez vacated and left the division and is getting ready to fight a guy he already beat in a rubber match.

                Neuro issues on Rafa? Post link or talking out your ass?

                I know about Vazquez health problems, I always respected Vazquez as a warrior, however this time, he vacated, NOT fought who he said he was gonna fight and left all his titles on the table, NOT THE VAZQUEZ I know. Not fit to fight Juanma? I could give Vazquez all the respect in the world if he decided to retire, the fact that he's not and he will continue to fight.

                Refer to my first paragraph.

                Who is emotional, LOL....... need to go there, when you started with internet insults??LOL.

                If you thing he only stayed at 22, you either don't read interviews, or you only see what you wanna see.

                Refer to previous paragraph.

                who woud win? who gives a ****! Vazquez won the rubber match, that's it! How many times in recent years have guys fought each other 4 times! Especially when there are other guys lined up like Caballero and Juanma.

                Of course it shows, especially in Vazquez part, when he said he would fight Juanma, then he talked about retirement, now he's dropping his titles to move up to 26.

                LOL, is that a desperate attempt to find your boys another excuse, pathetic...

                LOL, Again.......

                Has he drawn outside of PR? Am I his ****ing agent? LOL why don't you make a poll here, I'm tired of reading ppl wanting to see this fight, you're in the minority dude.

                Vazquez and Rafa are two of my favorite all time fighters, are you gonna blame everybody here who has said they're ducking been Puertoricans, that its a national thing? LOL, come on man, there's a reason why you're pissed and you started our argument the wrong way, not fighting Juanma doesn't take away what they have already done, but the fact they left the division and want at 4th fight, LOL, its just crazy! I still have respect for both for the fights they have given us, but sorry, your blind.

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                • Eaner0919
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by mellow_mood
                  please juanma !!!

                  make some noise tomorrow!!!!!!
                  hey man tell your boys this isnt anything more than saying Caballero deserves a chance.

                  if he is overated, a bum, and gets crushed so be it

                  but he has done enough, beaten enough and has won enough belts to at least be deserving of a shot

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                  • Eaner0919
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by gerardofpr
                    LOL, I'm not gonna go with all the quoting, takes forever, I'll break it down to you thou.

                    You can call me ****** all you want, this is the internet, I don't mind you calling me ******, I just said you're either disrespectful or you're are very emotional, could be hormones, change of life, personal problems.....LOL, whatever old man, let's just start disrespecting each other, I dont mind, eventhou I would prefer to argue in a respectful way, have it your way.

                    What makes me think they wont? Maybe the fact that retirement is closing in on both fighters, the fact that the fight at 22 would make THAT much more sense, and the fact they said they wanted to fight, yet Vazquez vacated and left the division and is getting ready to fight a guy he already beat in a rubber match.

                    Neuro issues on Rafa? Post link or talking out your ass?

                    I know about Vazquez health problems, I always respected Vazquez as a warrior, however this time, he vacated, NOT fought who he said he was gonna fight and left all his titles on the table, NOT THE VAZQUEZ I know. Not fit to fight Juanma? I could give Vazquez all the respect in the world if he decided to retire, the fact that he's not and he will continue to fight.

                    Refer to my first paragraph.

                    Who is emotional, LOL....... need to go there, when you started with internet insults??LOL.

                    If you thing he only stayed at 22, you either don't read interviews, or you only see what you wanna see.

                    Refer to previous paragraph.

                    who woud win? who gives a ****! Vazquez won the rubber match, that's it! How many times in recent years have guys fought each other 4 times! Especially when there are other guys lined up like Caballero and Juanma.

                    Of course it shows, especially in Vazquez part, when he said he would fight Juanma, then he talked about retirement, now he's dropping his titles to move up to 26.

                    LOL, is that a desperate attempt to find your boys another excuse, pathetic...

                    LOL, Again.......

                    Has he drawn outside of PR? Am I his ****ing agent? LOL why don't you make a poll here, I'm tired of reading ppl wanting to see this fight, you're in the minority dude.

                    Vazquez and Rafa are two of my favorite all time fighters, are you gonna blame everybody here who has said they're ducking been Puertoricans, that its a national thing? LOL, come on man, there's a reason why you're pissed and you started our argument the wrong way, not fighting Juanma doesn't take away what they have already done, but the fact they left the division and want at 4th fight, LOL, its just crazy! I still have respect for both for the fights they have given us, but sorry, your blind.
                    the bolded part

                    I work for a few websites, one of them being this one, so I do have access to some information that isn't always out there for media consumption

                    but believe me dont I dont care

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                    • Del Coqui
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Eaner0919
                      the bolded part

                      I work for a few websites, one of them being this one, so I do have access to some information that isn't always out there for media consumption

                      but believe me dont I dont care
                      LOL, ok, whatever you said, maybe that's why he's fighting Vazquez at 26 and cleared by the commission.

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