Nationalistic Boxing Extremists

[ChrististheAnswer]

Well I'll be expecting you to bet the house against him when he fights again next year then.

I don't bet. He may very we'll win his next fight and the one after and the one after, but what will it mean, if its against nobodies then who cares.

Man its like you hold every little thing I say against me. I say he's finsihed,you don't think so, we differ.

Chill out

[Neuraxis]

I don't bet. He may very we'll win his next fight and the one after and the one after, but what will it mean, if its against nobodies then who cares.

Man its like you hold every little thing I say against me. I say he's finsihed,you don't think so, we differ.

Chill out

He's not going to come back and fight after fight against nobodies. The current division sucks, and that is why so many people refuse to right off Wlad just yet. You yourself said he is finished, but if he wins fight after fight against you could care less. Once again you can't have it both ways.

[tino]

just as a thought. i can no longer talk to you.

oh no it s so sad , you were so interesting...

[ChrististheAnswer]

He's not going to come back and fight after fight against nobodies. The current division sucks, and that is why so many people refuse to right off Wlad just yet. You yourself said he is finished, but if he wins fight after fight against you could care less. Once again you can't have it both ways.

Have it both ways? What are you talking about?

I say Wlad is finished, but even if he wins against bums like TOS he will still be finished. He isn't proving anything with wins over guys like that.

Do you really think that Wlad proved anything in his fight against TOS, if so what is it that he proved? Do you really think that Wlad reasserted himself in the HW division against TOS?

[Neuraxis]

Have it both ways? What are you talking about?

I say Wlad is finished, but even if he wins against bums like TOS he will still be finished. He isn't proving anything with wins over guys like that.

Do you really think that Wlad proved anything in his fight against TOS, if so what is it that he proved? Do you really think that Wlad reasserted himself in the HW division against TOS?

Its not like he is going to fight TOS in his next fight. He is currently ranked 4th by the WBO with Whitaker, Rahman, and Toney ranked above him. His next fight will most likely be against Whitaker because Toney and Rahman are going for the WBC, WBA and IBF belts instead. Then he will probably fight Brewster or whoever happens to have the WBO belt. Where he goes from there I wouldn't know, but winning a belt hardly means that he is finished. If he were finished he would be performing like Michael Grant, and there is no way that Grant would beat TOS at this stage in his career.

You are right the fight against TOS didn't prove that he is going to take over the HW division, but it also didn't prove that he is finished. It was very inconclusive.

[ChrististheAnswer]

Its not like he is going to fight TOS in his next fight. He is currently ranked 4th by the WBO with Whitaker, Rahman, and Toney ranked above him. His next fight will most likely be against Whitaker because Toney and Rahman are going for the WBC, WBA and IBF belts instead. Then he will probably fight Brewster or whoever happens to have the WBO belt. Where he goes from there I wouldn't know, but winning a belt hardly means that he is finished. If he were finished he would be performing like Michael Grant, and there is no way that Grant would beat TOS at this stage in his career.

You are right the fight against TOS didn't prove that he is going to take over the HW division, but it also didn't prove that he is finished. It was very inconclusive.

All of what you said is extremely speculative and if he wins a belt then I will say he is not finished, but he has to prove it in the ring. He's gotta show me he's not finished with strong performances against good opponents.

To me the stink of the Brewster fight is still hanging over Wlad, and his fight with TOS did nothing to clear it up. This is why I say he is finished, he could prove me wrong but I doubt it.

[mic573]

I think it's all a mental think with Wlad now. Before he wouldn't of fought so cautious like he did against Williamson. I didn't think he was bothered by the Sanders knockout but after being knocked out by Brewster I think it got in his head. He looked too worried when he got tagged in his last fight. He just isn't fighting with the same courage as before and that is what is holding him down right now.

[Neuraxis]

I think it's all a mental think with Wlad now. Before he wouldn't of fought so cautious like he did against Williamson. I didn't think he was bothered by the Sanders knockout but after being knocked out by Brewster I think it got in his head. He looked too worried when he got tagged in his last fight. He just isn't fighting with the same courage as before and that is what is holding him down right now.

That's just something I don't get about the current criticism of Wlad. He was never aggresive. He's not going to come out with guns blazing like Tyson and KO fighters in 1 round unless they are just complete garbage. Wlad's best wins are McCline TKO 10, Mercer TKO 6, Botha TKO 8, Byrd UD 12, and Barrett TKO 7.

[Neuraxis]

All of what you said is extremely speculative and if he wins a belt then I will say he is not finished, but he has to prove it in the ring. He's gotta show me he's not finished with strong performances against good opponents.

To me the stink of the Brewster fight is still hanging over Wlad, and his fight with TOS did nothing to clear it up. This is why I say he is finished, he could prove me wrong but I doubt it.

Well at least you say that you would admit that he isn't shot if he wins the WBO belt. That's a good start.

[ChrististheAnswer]

Well at least you say that you would admit that he isn't shot if he wins the WBO belt. That's a good start.

Hey man I call'em like I see em, I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong.