Floyd Mayweather Jr: “Shane Mosley Blew His Chance”

[Horus]

The fact is, Cotto still fought guys Mayweather avoided like a plague, just admit it, Mayweather is digging his own grave here, its really hard to see how you guys can still defend him.

THE FACTs :

In 2006
The top 2 man in the welterweight division were
zab judah and carlos baldomir.
and Floyd Mayweather beat them both. before Miguel Cotto even came to the welterweight division.


Miguel Cotto was fighting
Ricardo Torres at 140
Gianluca Branco at 140
Paul Malignaggi at 140
Carlos Quintana at 147 first fight.
[By that Time Floyd Already beat Carlos and Zab and won the lineal WW championship.]

2007
Mayweather fought de la hoya in the biggest selling fight and boxing history
and then Mayweather fought and destroyed Undefeated Ricky Hatton and highest grossing non-heavyweight fight not involving de la hoya.

2006 : Cotto fighting at Jr. WW while Floyd was fighting Welterweights
2007: Floyd was Fighting Jr. Middleweights and making history. and defeating another top undefeated fighter.

Mosely in 2006
Toothache
Mosely in 2001-2005
taking steroids


Floyd Mayweather beat Oscar May 4,2097
Cotto Fought Zab Judah June 09,2007 in his 3rd fight at welterweight

So how could a cotto mayweather fight could have been possible after the oscar fight?

Floyd Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton were Negotiations in june of 2007...
the same month Cotto fought Judah...

How good is your memory?

Oh yeah that next month in July, Margarito lost to Paul Williams...


Those are the Facts.!!!


So who are these fighters floyd avoided?

[Bhopreign]

Pacquiao started fighting professionally at 106 pounds! The guy is a former flyweight champion 112 pounds for christ sake!

Fraud jr started at 130, hes a former welterweight & junior middleweight champ.

Cotto started fighting at 140 pounds a champion at that weight & welterweight

Mosley at 135 pounds. Fought as high as junior middle.

Do u not see the difference?

The only difference is that Pacquaio was starving and HAD to turn professional earlier. Also he was killing himself to make weight and shouldnt have been at those lower weights to begin with. Floyd fought at 106 the same age 16, only difference he wasnt professional, so dont try to act like one is really bigger than the other.

[FromAfrica]

If this is an old interview than it should disregarded. Floyd has said a lot
of things but everything should be and stay updated in all fairness.

Most of what is written in the article is said in this video from 8:13 and on about mosley. Uploaded may 18.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMB4p4eFjAU

[Bhopreign]

You still didn't answer my question, who was drained to a pulp, and who was forced not to put on any weight after the weigh in?

Pac has already said he isn't going to be campaigning at 147, unlike Floyd. so if these fights are going to get made he'll be looking to do it at a catchweight. I hardly think he'd ask Valero or Marquez, Nate Campbell or any other fighter for stipulations.

Wanting to fight welters below there weight is Pacquiao, Freddie has said he fought Oscar at welter because he knew Oscar would be feeble and he was right. Not taking anything from Pac its just the facts.

[GRUSTLER]

It may be the truth, but it's ******ed. It's about quality of opposition not titles.

I know but with that said, Cotto only quality opponent at 147
was Shane Mosley and now the upcoming fight with Joshua
Clottey. Quintana, Urkal, Gomez, Margarito, Jennings can't
be considered quality opposition. Not even Judah considering
Floyd fought him first if you want to get technical. If Cotto
fans really think Margarito cheated in their fight then Margarito
can't be considered quality either. Shane & Clottey will be
his biggest boast at 147 especially if he beats Clottey. The
facts still remains that Cotto hasn't beat any champs for
a title and eventhough it may or may not be important
but it plays a big factor in the sport example Manny Pacquiao
winning all his titles by beating his opponents is a big deal
and sealed his greatness, right or wrong? Not hating just
telling the truth.

[LilGizmo562]

THE FACTs :

In 2006
The top 2 man in the welterweight division were
zab judah and carlos baldomir.
and Floyd Mayweather beat them both. before Miguel Cotto even came to the welterweight division.


Miguel Cotto was fighting
Ricardo Torres at 140
Gianluca Branco at 140
Paul Malignaggi at 140
Carlos Quintana at 147 first fight.
[By that Time Floyd Already beat Carlos and Zab and won the lineal WW championship.]

2007
Mayweather fought de la hoya in the biggest selling fight and boxing history
and then Mayweather fought and destroyed Undefeated Ricky Hatton and highest grossing non-heavyweight fight not involving de la hoya.

2006 : Cotto fighting at Jr. WW while Floyd was fighting Welterweights
2007: Floyd was Fighting Jr. Middleweights and making history. and defeating another top undefeated fighter.

Mosely in 2006
Toothache
Mosely in 2001-2005
taking steroids


Floyd Mayweather beat Oscar May 4,2097
Cotto Fought Zab Judah June 09,2007 in his 3rd fight at welterweight

So how could a cotto mayweather fight could have been possible after the oscar fight?

Floyd Mayweather vs Ricky Hatton were Negotiations in june of 2007...
the same month Cotto fought Judah...

How good is your memory?

Oh yeah that next month in July, Margarito lost to Paul Williams...


Those are the Facts.!!!


So who are these fighters floyd avoided?

Once Mayweather was the man to beat at WW, 3 of his last 4 fights were at WW, he has come back as a WW and is making a LW move up, but why doesn't he fight the top WWs this time?, he did it before, why not again? cause Cotto or Mosley weren't big draws? I see, I didn't know Judah and Baldomir were bigger draws then Cotto or Mosley are, thanks for the info.

[Bhopreign]

Once Mayweather was the man to beat at WW, 3 of his last 4 fights were at WW, he has come back as a WW and is making a LW move up, but why doesn't he fight the top WWs this time?, he did it before, why not again? cause Cotto or Mosley weren't big draws? I see, I didn't know Judah and Baldomir were bigger draws then Cotto or Mosley are, thanks for the info.

Cotto is a New York fighter, Mosley is an LA fighter, basically its as simple as that.

[Horus]

I know but with that said, Cotto only quality opponent at 147
was Shane Mosley and now the upcoming fight with Joshua
Clottey. Quintana, Urkal, Gomez, Margarito, Jennings can't
be considered quality opposition. Not even Judah considering
Floyd fought him first if you want to get technical. If Cotto
fans really think Margarito cheated in their fight then Margarito
can't be considered quality either. Shane & Clottey will be
his biggest boast at 147 especially if he beats Clottey. The
facts still remains that Cotto hasn't beat any champs for
a title and eventhough it may or may not be important
but it plays a big factor in the sport example Manny Pacquiao
winning all his titles by beating his opponents is a big deal
and sealed his greatness, right or wrong? Not hating just
telling the truth.

Grust, I got a full thread decided to this one topic.
It burns cotto fans asses to hear these truths.

Cotto is a HUGE ----> ?????

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=223597


First title:
~ vacant WBC International light welterweight title ~
vs. Cesar Bazan ( CONTENDER) Previous Best Win:Mauro Lucero
Second title:
~ vacant WBO NABO light welterweight title ~
vs. Rocky Martinez ( CONTENDER) Previous Best Win:Javier Carmona
Third title:
~ vacant WBO light welterweight title ~
vs.Kelson Pinto ( CONTENDER) Previous Best Win: Richard Savage
Fourth Title:
~ vacant WBA welterweight title ~
vs.Carlos Quintana (CONTENDER) Previous Best Win: Joel Julio
Fifth Title:
vs. Micheal Jennings (NOBODY)

Where are the champions on that list?

Cotto fights all Medium RISK - Medium Reward fighters
EXCEPT ONE TIME, AND HE GOT HIS ASS BEAT..! (MARGARITO)

[JAB5239]

Wanting to fight welters below there weight is Pacquiao, Freddie has said he fought Oscar at welter because he knew Oscar would be feeble and he was right. Not taking anything from Pac its just the facts.

You still haven't answered my questions....but forget about it, I know you can't.

EVERYBODY in boxing wants a piece of Pac right now. He isn't fighting smaller guys, he's fighting bigger guys. I don't like all the catchweight nonsense, but there is a difference in Manny asking a guy to come down to a weight he would agree upon, and changing the rules entirely for you benefit at a weight you have been campaigning at for years now.

As far as the Oscar fight.....like I said, purely about money.

[LilGizmo562]

Cotto is a New York fighter, Mosley is an LA fighter, basically its as simple as that.

Really? wasn't Judah a New York fighter only too? and Baldomir was? Answer the question, were Judah and Baldomir bigger draws then Mosley and Cotto?