If PBF beast Pac deciesevly , will people say he was too small?

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  • MindBat
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    #31
    Originally posted by RodBarker
    How can he be too small when they both step into the ring weighing the same , you boys sure are thick in the head when you ignore fight weight the way you do !! they both fight at 147-148 on the night cant get any clearer
    Thank you. Maybe Pullcounter can clarify this one for us.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #32
      Originally posted by RodBarker
      How can he be too small when they both step into the ring weighing the same , you boys sure are thick in the head when you ignore fight weight the way you do !! they both fight at 147-148 on the night cant get any clearer
      Originally posted by MindBat
      Thank you. Maybe Pullcounter can clarify this one for us.
      you guys are dumb... even floyd said pac is too small for him.

      /argument.

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      • RodBarker
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        #33
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        you guys are dumb... even floyd said pac is too small for him.

        /argument.
        Thats very ****** man and short sighted , Im over 6 ft anybody shorter than me is a midget its typically said of anyone that is taller than another , with Floyd its height not weight , you want him to say Pacs bigger when he is shorter , Floyd said the same with Hatton yet Hatton out weighed him on the night , you have a bad case of selective acknowledgment .

        Fighters fight at weight , the weights of Pac and Floyd is withing 2 pounds on the night , thats fact so dont ignore it you only come across as ignorant and Im sure your not just selective in what you care to admit .

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        • baracuda
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          #34
          Originally posted by MindBat
          How is Manny too small when he fought Oscar at 147 lbs already???

          Can someone please answer that one?
          because he started as a 106lber.....147 is 10 divisions north....can you name any fighter whos done that ?

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          • baracuda
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            #35
            Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
            Floyd hasn't get credit for any of his 39 wins, he won't get credit for his 40th win apparently. Why are they gonna change their hating ways and give him credit for his 41st win? against anybody.

            Haters Excuse Book:


            Manfredy=C-Class Fighter
            Chavez=Wasn't All That To Begin With
            Gerena=Past Prime
            Hernandez=Past Prime
            Diego Corrales=Too Big For Floyd/Floyd Should Have Been The Favorite
            Jose Luis Castillo=He Didn't Win That Fight/Rematches Don't Count
            Corley=Cotto Beat Him Faster
            Gatti=Washed Up
            Mitchell=Too Small Even though floyd Was Coming Up In Weight To Fight Him
            Judah=Had Lost To Baldomir/Wasn't A Top WW
            Baldomir=Journeymen/Wasn't All That To begin With
            De La Hoya=Too Old/Over The Hill
            Hatton=Overhyped/Pacquiao Beat Him Faster
            Marquez=Too Small
            Pacquiao=Too Small
            Mosley=Too Old/Past Prime
            Paul Williams=Weight Drained/Fight Him at 154
            Miguel Cotto=Damaged Goods/He Was Done After The Margarito Fight
            Victor Ortiz=Too Small

            lol..at floyd beating mosely,pac,ortiz....id give him credit if he just face them..

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            • Benny Leonard
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              #36
              Originally posted by baracuda
              because he started as a 106lber.....147 is 10 divisions north....can you name any fighter whos done that ?
              He started out at 106 because he was 16 years old and was starving. Floyd was 106 pounds in America when he was 16.

              Pac also was KTFO TWICE in the lower weight divisions and was put down several times back then.

              We also have more divisions today. And yes, we had fighters in the past that were small guys facing HW fighters.

              And if you look at the HW division it is so wide with weight that we can factor that in especially. Look at Holyfield vs. Bowe, Lewis, etc.
              Chris Byrd won a Silver Medal in the Olympics as a MW at 22 years old and then went on to train/eat his way up to HW because that was his goal...HW Champion. Byrd faced guys like Wlad and Vitali, IKE, Tua, McCline, Holyfield, Golota...even tried to get a fight with Lewis when they were both Champions. Yet where is his respect?

              How about Sam Langford?

              How about Barbados Joe Walcott?



              And if we brake down the fights, how many times has Pac been out-weighed on fight-night...and by how much?

              Can we compare Pac to someone that is out-weighed by 10-50 pounds come the actual fight?
              Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-31-2009, 05:31 PM.

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              • wolfgang
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                #37
                lol there will always be some excuse with floyd haters.

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                • baracuda
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  He started out at 106 because he was 16 years old and was starving. Floyd was 106 pounds in America when he was 16.

                  Pac also was KTFO TWICE in the lower weight divisions and was put down several times back then.
                  floyd was wearing bulletproof vest fighting when he was 16 in the amateurs and lost 6x,he would've gotten koed without haedgear....pac got ktfo by war veterans in his teens in the pros a decade ago.....

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                  • Benny Leonard
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by baracuda
                    floyd was wearing bulletproof vest fighting when he was 16 in the amateurs and lost 6x,he would've gotten koed without haedgear....pac got ktfo by war veterans in his teens in the pros a decade ago.....
                    Head gear....

                    Floyd wasn't KTFO though, was he?
                    And how many fights did Floyd have in comparison to those losses?

                    I understand the difference between amateur and Pro...and I understand what Pac had to deal with...but,
                    Like I've said many times before: Keep bringing up the 106, and overall, it all matters. He was KTFO TWICE back then and was placed on the mat other times.

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                    • RodBarker
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by baracuda
                      floyd was wearing bulletproof vest fighting when he was 16 in the amateurs and lost 6x,he would've gotten koed without haedgear....pac got ktfo by war veterans in his teens in the pros a decade ago.....
                      What the hell does it matter what somebody was many years ago , what they are now is what matters , all people grow and mature especially after intense training for all that time , Manny the man cannot be compared to Manny the boy ,,,, what is wrong with you guys both Floyd and Manny are great fighters why cant they both be appreciated people should be happy they are here for us to see box , both of them a true champions enjoy them .

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