HBO fight night weights are UNOFFICIAL

[BattlingNelson]

LOL Who said anything about height? I'm talking about the point your thread was created to support being hopelessly slanted and disingenous, and what it says about where you're coming from.
Fact remains, Marquez and Mayweather are far more suited in natural size than Mayweather and Pavlik will ever be.

You said that PBF and JMM was the same bodysize. Since bodysize isn't weight or height, then please enlighten me what you're talking about.

And? Marquez wanted the fight. Mayweather calls the shots. That's where both men are at. When Mayweather had to go to the man, he accepted all the terms. He didn't cry. Marquez isn't crying now. Only one crying is you, mascara smeared like a proper slut.

Sure Mayweather calls the shots. He's also overselling the fight as a legit p4p fight when it really is nothing but a tune-up.

Sure JMM doesn't cry. Would you if you're about to get millions of dollars?

I spam? Check the post-counts, then read some of the hott trash you come out with in the name of backing up these bull**** piss-and-moan campaigns.
I don't come with any agenda, except occasionally to point out the fallacy of pathetic ****s like you.
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Exchanging reason with wilful, bloody-minded ignorance is fun, isn't it?


Maybe we should create an 'elite poster' forum for all the good guys and keep riff-raff like BattlingNelson out.



So many hypocritical creeps on this forum.

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[MACAQUEINBLACK]

somehow.........its turning it to a floyd argument....................when all the thread is about is that is UNOFFICIAL......................some measures may be done to validate it.................making it more transparent......................

I agree with the bold. The reason the thread has become contentious (mayweather oriented) is because of the presence of an individual like BattlingNelson, who is known to carry a certain agenda in his pocket at all times. A guy like that isn't any better than an ultramaroon like Deja_Vous when it comes to darkheartedness, he's just more 'polite' about it.





Still loving this piece of sublime reasoning,

HBO may not have any reason to lie, but fighters may have reasons to appear heavier than they really are for intimidation purposes.

All these guys who appear to blow up a stone (or even more) between weigh-in and fight night are really just loading up their pockets with Mr. T ***ellery to frighten their opponents and ****.

[BattlingNelson]

Lol surely this fruitless debate is about some fighter youre defending, who is it? Or rather is it because Floyd doesnt gain after the Official weigh in and to try and discredit that youre doing this?

I'm only trying to tell the difference in accuracy between the official and unofficial procedures.

Kessler is my man (when he's fighting that is) and I haven't seen any fight night weights on him.

[BattlingNelson]

I agree with the bold. The reason the thread has become contentious (mayweather oriented) is because of the presence of an individual like BattlingNelson, who is known to carry a certain agenda in his pocket at all times. A guy like that isn't any better than an ultramaroon like Deja_Vous when it comes to darkheartedness, he's just more 'polite' about it.





Still loving this piece of sublime reasoning,



All these guys who appear to blow up a stone (or even more) between weigh-in and fight night are really just loading up their pockets with Mr. T ***ellery to frighten their opponents and ****.

You don't really get it do you? Point is that they CAN load their pockets with mr. T ***elry. And they can wear 5 lb shoes or whatever. This uncertainty is there even if you want to admit it or not.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

You said that PBF and JMM was the same bodysize. Since bodysize isn't weight or height, then please enlighten me what you're talking about.

Please quote correctly. I said they are far nearer to the same natural size frame (and therefore more suited to a matchup) than Mayweather or Pavlik will ever be.

Sure Mayweather calls the shots. He's also overselling the fight as a legit p4p fight when it really is nothing but a tune-up.

And? So what?

I see it as a tune-up. You see it as a tune-up. There are a few that don't. Even some of the other anti-Floyd guys (like 2501) don't.

I think it's a fight that Floyd sees could be cagey for a while and give him a very nice workout without presenting too much danger, which is what a tune-up is. I don't see Floyd losing to a fighter who is smaller than himself -- even if it isn't the monstrous difference in size that you're making out -- unless it's someone with a unique kind of explosivity (like a Pacquiao).

But Marquez definitely has skills which could make Floyd work and think and get the rust out. And there is still an outside chance that Floyd has miscalculated and Marquez may give him far more issues than he or most others (including you and I) are predicting. Wouldn't that be special, though?

If you have a chance to make your tune-up something of a megafight between 2 of the ****-hottest names in the sport, wouldn't you take it?

Sure JMM doesn't cry. Would you if you're about to get millions of dollars?

No. But what's your point? My point is (again), Mayweather's the man in the matchup. JMM has to come to him, like Floyd went to the man to get what he wanted. I admire JMM massively. I admire Floyd Mayweather Jr. massively. And Manny Pacquiao.
Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III would both be amazing outcomes of this Mayweather-JMM fight. I can't really lose from the outcome of this fight.

What are your hopes and dreams for all this?

[RodBarker]

Good thing that you're around to educate then..........

Only if your man enough to see your own bull**** and thats to much pressure for you to face , your about hate and you live a lie so your hate can flourish ,, you lost this debate badly and your still dribbling about nothing , it dont make sense to me to hate somebody that you dont know , but you think your on the right track so just stick to your hate , labels and double standards and you will go far ,,,,,,,,,, one day you will figure it out bud ,, but not today , today you remain an empty head .

[BattlingNelson]

Please quote correctly. I said they are far nearer to the same natural size (and therefore more suited to a matchup) than Mayweather or Pavlik will ever be.
You said body size. Now you say natural size. Can you please enlighten me how to measure bodysize/natural size?. I'm curious since you keep on ducking the question. So far you've only said that weight and height isn't the correct measurement. What is?





And? So what?

I see it as a tune-up. You see it as a tune-up. There are a few that don't. Even some of the other anti-Floyd guys (like 2501) don't.

I think it's a fight that Floyd sees could be cagey for a while and give him a very nice workout without presenting too much danger, which is what a tune-up is. I don't see Floyd losing to a fighter who is smaller than himself -- even if it isn't the monstrous difference in size that you're making out -- unless it's someone with a unique kind of explosivity (like a Pacquiao).

But Marquez definitely has skills which could make Floyd work and think and get the rust out. And there is still an outside chance that Floyd has miscalculated and Marquez may give him far more issues than he or most others (including you and I) are predicting. Wouldn't that be special, though?

If you have a chance to make your tune-up something of a megafight between 2 of the ****-hottest names in the sport, wouldn't you take it?

Sure I would. Only thing is that it isn't billed as a tune-up but rather a battle for p4p supremacy.




No. But what's your point? My point is (again), Mayweather's the man in the matchup. JMM has to come to him, like Floyd went to the man to get what he wanted. I admire JMM massively. I admire Floyd Mayweather Jr. massively. And Manny Pacquiao.
Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez III would both be amazing outcomes of this Mayweather-JMM fight. I can't really lose from the outcome of this fight.

What are your hopes and dreams for all this?

I'm just happy that Floyd is back and I'm looking forward to Floyd vs. Manny or Cotto next.

[BattlingNelson]

Only if your man enough to see your own bull**** and thats to much pressure for you to face , your about hate and you live a lie so your hate can flourish ,, you lost this debate badly and your still dribbling about nothing , it dont make sense to me to hate somebody that you dont know , but you think your on the right track so just stick to your hate , labels and double standards and you will go far ,,,,,,,,,, one day you will figure it out bud ,, but not today , today you remain an empty head .

Thanks for all the wise words. You are the shining lighttower on NSB.

[MindBat]

Thats right Benny ,, what we do know that is fact is they go up a lot from weigh-in weight and it sounds ridicules to me to argue the point based on a weight ( dehydrated) that we know for sure is a long way from fight weight , how long is a piece of string you would be crazy to say it has no length ,, we know the official weight is not fight weight !!!

I believe the real reason people dont want to accept what HBO and the trainers say is that it doesnt suit the agenda of haters, I cant think of a single reason why HBO would lie if they did I'm sure somebody would protest the stated fight weight ,,,, officially nobody ever has as far as I know .

I believe the HBO weights are very close , its to HBOs benefit that they are , no complaint in any interview by anyone , nothing anywhere that suggests its not at least semi accurate .

Therein lies the rub. Some of us try to discount weight issues to suit an agenda.

Maybe they should not weigh the fighters for fear the scales might not be as accurate as some of us believe they should be.

Human beings are not perfect, so all weights presented to us should be "un-official" because it really should not matter either way.

In fact, HBO should not even display the fighters' weights on the screen before a fight because they're not really as "official" as they say.

It's just deceitful to sign for a fight at a certain division only to weigh an entirely different division on Fight Night.

That's just my guess.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

You don't really get it do you? Point is that they CAN load their pockets with mr. T ***elry. And they can wear 5 lb shoes or whatever. This uncertainty is there even if you want to admit it or not.

LOL The one who doesn't get it is you. This is pretty sad, really.


But, have it your way. Josh Clottey didn't really put on crazy weight after weighing in for his last fight. And Zab didn't really gain only a paltry amount by fight night. Like the Holocaust, that **** never happened. They were the same weight on the night, hell, Zab might even have been heavier, you couldn't really even tell by looking at them. It's all a conspiracy, played out with doctored-up scales and pockets loaded with curb-chains.