The Boxing equivalent to the UFC 100 card

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  • -Swizzy-
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    #11
    Originally posted by mangler jr
    I think what he means is that the best possible fights are being made.
    exactly. you got it right on point.

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    • Kevin Jesus
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      #12
      Swizzy, did you know that the highest paid fighter in that card will most likely get no more, no less than $400k? if they get more then bravo good for them, but I don't think they will.


      Here are some salaries from a couple of big UFC events(keep in mind UFC is the most popular MMA company out on the MMA market)

      UFC 94 salaries:

      Main Card

      * Georges St.Pierre ($400,000) defeats BJ Penn ($125,000)
      * Lyoto Machida ($120,000) defeats Thiago Silva ($29,000)
      * Jon Jones ($14,000) defeats Stephan Bonnar ($22,000)
      * Karo Parisyan ($80,000) defeats Dong Hyun Kim ($26,000)
      * Clay Guida ($40,000) defeats Nate Diaz ($20,000)

      UFC 98 Salaries:


      Lyoto Machida -- $200,000 (including $70,000 win bonus, $60,000 knockout bonus) def. Rashad Evans -- $200,000

      Matt Hughes -- $260,000 (including $100,000 win bonus, $60,000 fight of night bonus) def. Matt Serra -- $135,000 (including $60,000 fight of night bonus)

      Drew McFedries -- $34,000 (including $17,000 win bonus) def. Xavier Foupa-Pokam -- $6,000

      Chael Sonnen -- $50,000 (including $25,000 win bonus) def. Dan Miller -- $15,000

      Frankie Edgar -- $40,000 (including $20,000 win bonus) def. Sean Sherk -- $40,000

      Brock Larson -- $102,000 (including $21,000 win bonus, $60,000 submission bonus) def. Mike Pyle -- $15,000

      Tim Hague -- $10,000 (including $5,000 win bonus) def. Patrick Barry -- $7,000

      Kyle Bradley -- $8,000 (including $5,000 win bonus) def. Phillipe Nover -- $10,000

      Krzysztof Soszynski -- $16,000 (including $8,000 win bonus) def. Andre Gusmao -- $5,000

      Yoshiyuki Yoshida -- $16,000 (including $8,000 win bonus) def. Brandon Wolff -- $3,000

      George Roop -- $16,000 (including $8,000 win bonus) def. David Kaplan -- $8,000

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      • -Swizzy-
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        #13
        Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
        Swizzy, did you know that the highest paid fighter in that card will most likely get no more, no less than $400k? if they get more then bravo good for them, but I don't think they will.


        Here are some salaries from a couple of big UFC events(keep in mind UFC is the most popular MMA company out on the MMA market)

        UFC 94 salaries:

        Main Card

        * Georges St.Pierre ($400,000) defeats BJ Penn ($125,000)
        * Lyoto Machida ($120,000) defeats Thiago Silva ($29,000)
        * Jon Jones ($14,000) defeats Stephan Bonnar ($22,000)
        * Karo Parisyan ($80,000) defeats Dong Hyun Kim ($26,000)
        * Clay Guida ($40,000) defeats Nate Diaz ($20,000)

        UFC 98 Salaries:


        Lyoto Machida -- $200,000 (including $70,000 win bonus, $60,000 knockout bonus) def. Rashad Evans -- $200,000

        Matt Hughes -- $260,000 (including $100,000 win bonus, $60,000 fight of night bonus) def. Matt Serra -- $135,000 (including $60,000 fight of night bonus)

        Drew McFedries -- $34,000 (including $17,000 win bonus) def. Xavier Foupa-Pokam -- $6,000

        Chael Sonnen -- $50,000 (including $25,000 win bonus) def. Dan Miller -- $15,000

        Frankie Edgar -- $40,000 (including $20,000 win bonus) def. Sean Sherk -- $40,000

        Brock Larson -- $102,000 (including $21,000 win bonus, $60,000 submission bonus) def. Mike Pyle -- $15,000

        Tim Hague -- $10,000 (including $5,000 win bonus) def. Patrick Barry -- $7,000

        Kyle Bradley -- $8,000 (including $5,000 win bonus) def. Phillipe Nover -- $10,000

        Krzysztof Soszynski -- $16,000 (including $8,000 win bonus) def. Andre Gusmao -- $5,000

        Yoshiyuki Yoshida -- $16,000 (including $8,000 win bonus) def. Brandon Wolff -- $3,000

        George Roop -- $16,000 (including $8,000 win bonus) def. David Kaplan -- $8,000
        I guess they are underpaid. But what the fighters get paid doesn't really change the ppv buys and the popularity of the sport.

        oh and, you should be comparing the average payout to every fighter on a UFC card to every fighter on a Boxing card. I think those numbers would be very closely comparable. and also take into consideration that the main event fighters get a cut of the ppv buys and those numbers rarely ever get released and don't include the base payout that is listed above.
        Last edited by -Swizzy-; 05-29-2009, 02:06 AM.

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        • DeltaSigChi4
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          #14
          Alright, this thread is very ****** on several accounts.

          a) This [UFC® 100] is not "one of the most impressive cards ever". NO ****ING WAY. Have you ever heard of PrideFC®? Have you ever watched a single goddamn NYE event in your entire life? If you think 100 is one of the most impressive cards ever, then you don't know **** about the sport; and

          b) Affliction pays their fighters more disclosed salaries than ZUFFA, LLC. So, Kevin fictionalcultcharacter's point that the UFC® is the "most popular MMA company" is baseless. Without merit. POINTLESS.

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            #15
            Originally posted by DeltaSigChi4
            Alright, this thread is very ****** on several accounts.

            a) This [UFC® 100] is not "one of the most impressive cards ever". NO ****ING WAY. Have you ever heard of PrideFC®? Have you ever watched a single goddamn NYE event in your entire life? If you think 100 is one of the most impressive cards ever, then you don't know **** about the sport; and

            b) Affliction pays their fighters more disclosed salaries than ZUFFA, LLC. So, Kevin fictionalcultcharacter's point that the UFC® is the "most popular MMA company" is baseless. Without merit. POINTLESS.

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            lol. what a senseless post full of so much fiction and hate.

            Ok so you don't like this thread, move on.

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            • Kevin Jesus
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              #16
              Originally posted by DeltaSigChi4
              Alright, this thread is very ****** on several accounts.

              a) This [UFC® 100] is not "one of the most impressive cards ever". NO ****ING WAY. Have you ever heard of PrideFC®? Have you ever watched a single goddamn NYE event in your entire life? If you think 100 is one of the most impressive cards ever, then you don't know **** about the sport; and

              b) Affliction pays their fighters more disclosed salaries than ZUFFA, LLC. So, Kevin fictionalcultcharacter's point that the UFC® is the "most popular MMA company" is baseless. Without merit. POINTLESS.

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              UFC is the best in the market. Listen Tito Ortiz I know your angry at your break up with UFC but you need to face that facts, MMA is not on Pro Boxing's level. Okay?

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              • DeltaSigChi4
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                #17
                a. Show any fallacies and prove them wrong; and

                b. How do you know so much about Mixed Martial Arts when you don't know **** about Mixed Martial Arts? The discussion is over SALARY, and you mention the opinion that the UFC® is the "most popular MMA company", and yet there is a promotion that far out-compensates their fighters [all documented and quite easily retrieved by a simple internet search engine query]. Please let me know how this isn't germane to the ridiculous paradigm you attempt, quite feebly, I might add, to establish?

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                • -Swizzy-
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DeltaSigChi4
                  a. Show any fallacies and prove them wrong; and

                  b. How do you know so much about Mixed Martial Arts when you don't know **** about Mixed Martial Arts? The discussion is over SALARY, and you mention the opinion that the UFC® is the "most popular MMA company", and yet there is a promotion that far out-compensates their fighters [all documented and quite easily retrieved by a simple internet search engine query]. Please let me know how this isn't germane to the ridiculous paradigm you attempt, quite feebly, I might add, to establish?

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                  so you think affliction is more popular than the UFC? lol. affliction is like the NABO title and UFC is like the ring title. not even comparable.

                  what are you going to pull up anyway? the salaries. is that gonna be your proof of popularity? lol. if donald trump throwing his pocket change at fighters is proof of popularity than I guess you are right.

                  once again, move on. you have issues.

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                  • Cadillac Man
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                    #19
                    I Luv the line "Fastest growing sport". What other sport could you compare it to say it is the fastest growing sport? MMA if it was so popular these MMA fighters would be able to headline a PPV by themselves and get paid instead they get paid peanuts to fight for the UFC. Affliction,Bodog,IFL,Pride,Elitex/c all have folded or about to so how could you say MMA is thriving? Worldwide MMA is NO WHERE NEAR Boxing. Haye-Klit by themselves will have 60K in Germany name 1 MMA fight by themselves any where in the world that could sell 60K tickets. Hatton-PBF and Hatton-Pac between the U.K. and U.S. did combined over 2 million PPV for each fight. Could a UFC card attract 2 million PPV buys with UK AND US NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Please stop with it's gonna take over Boxing or surpass it. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

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                    • -Swizzy-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Cadillac Man
                      I Luv the line "Fastest growing sport". What other sport could you compare it to say it is the fastest growing sport? MMA if it was so popular these MMA fighters would be able to headline a PPV by themselves and get paid instead they get paid peanuts to fight for the UFC. Affliction,Bodog,IFL,Pride,Elitex/c all have folded or about to so how could you say MMA is thriving? Worldwide MMA is NO WHERE NEAR Boxing. Haye-Klit by themselves will have 60K in Germany name 1 MMA fight by themselves any where in the world that could sell 60K tickets. Hatton-PBF and Hatton-Pac between the U.K. and U.S. did combined over 2 million PPV for each fight. Could a UFC card attract 2 million PPV buys with UK AND US NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Please stop with it's gonna take over Boxing or surpass it. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
                      UFC 100 is very capable of selling 100k tickets.

                      and affliction, bodog, ifl, pride, elitexc are not examples for mma. you have to understand that those are just minor independant organizations. boxing has hundreds of little independent promotions every year and a lot of them succed and a lot of them fail as well. but you can't look to them as an example for all of boxing just as you can't look those minor mma organizations as an example for all of mma.

                      UFC is a juggernaut all its own. If you look at the success and failure of mma, you have to look at UFC and UFC alone. That is the defining organization for all of the mma world. Dream might have something to say about that but lets face it, 99% of mma fighters dream to fight in the UFC and not in Dream(no pun intended).

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