Calzaghe and Dawson: a double standard about fighting old opponents

[Jim Jeffries]

Continuing on...

Then he fought Morade Hakkar for 1.25 million instead.

Hakkar for 1.25 instead of Calzaghe for 3 mill. But somehow Joe was ducking Bernard.

That's Calzaghe best win over a fighter in his prime, and even Adamek is way better than Kessler.

Not at the time Dawson fought him, and I think it seems pretty obvious that Adamek was killing himself to make LHW, given his recent success 25 pounds north.

[Brandish]

difference is johnson and tarver were actively fighting top contenders and competing for titles bhops and roy are not. tarver and johnson are in championship form and when was the last time bhop or roy fought for a legit title

[S A M U R A I]

After all is said and done, if anyone had beaten Calzaghe it would have been possibly the biggest achievement on their resume. So why is Calzaghe called "fraud" who "can't fight" and "slaps like a girl"? Beating Calzaghe would have been such a huge deal. You all know this is true!

If Hopkins had beaten him, people on here would never stop going on about it for the next 20 years. Same goes for Roy. Does that sound like a worthless, slapping fraud to you? Joe Calzaghe was a wicked FIGHTER. I don't care if you dont like how he fights, it's irrelevant, but the guy knew how to win and his style was very effective for him. Me? I love Joe's style. I guess this is kinda like a Marmite situation, though.



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[slicksouthpaw16]

People need to realize that Dawson is only 26 years old, not even in his prime yet. Even when he gets a hold of fighters like Froch, Kessler, Taylor, Bute ect, he will still get criticized and its funny because its by the same people who praise Calzaghe. Dawson's resume right now threatens Joe's, and this is coming from a big fan of both fighters.

[NickTheGreek]

Joe said he would travel to the US to fight him (see my sig). Roy never got into negotiations, though. Mostly because of TV politics, Joe was tied to Showtime, Roy to HBO (see my sig). Also because Joe wasn't a name and brought little money to the table.

Spot on.

Don't expect to haters to listen though. They only deal in made up bull****.

[Jim Jeffries]

difference is johnson and tarver were actively fighting top contenders and competing for titles bhops and roy are not. tarver and johnson are in championship form and when was the last time bhop or roy fought for a legit title

Bhop was just a top 4 p4p fighter coming off a dominating win over the man at LHW and a top p4p fighter in Winky Wright. Bhop, who just dominated the man at MW. Please don't compare that Bhop to the current versions of Johnson and especially Tarver. Roy I'll give you, but then Joe made more in that fight than Dawson's made in his whole career.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Not at the time Dawson fought him, and I think it seems pretty obvious that Adamek was killing himself to make LHW, given his recent success 25 pounds north.

That's completely ridiculous, he looked like that because Dawson MADE him look like that. Adamek was arguably the best light heavyweight in the world at the time he lost to Dawson, and the reason why he hasn't lost at cruiser weight is because cruiser weights does not have the hand speed of a light heavyweight such as Dawson, or the skill level. Even before the Dawson fight when Adamek was in his dressing room, he stated that his size would be a factor and that he felt better than ever. Don't let anyone fool you.

[Pullcounter]

After all is said and done, if anyone had beaten Calzaghe it would have been possibly the biggest achievement on their resume. So why is Calzaghe called "fraud" who "can't fight" and "slaps like a girl"? Beating Calzaghe would have been such a huge deal. You all know this is true!

If Hopkins had beaten him, people on here would never stop going on about it for the next 20 years. Same goes for Roy. Does that sound like a worthless, slapping fraud to you? Joe Calzaghe was a wicked FIGHTER. I don't care if you dont like how he fights, it's irrelevant, but the guy knew how to win and his style was very effective for him. Me? I love Joe's style. I guess this is kinda like a Marmite situation, though.

i disagree, roy and hopkins have bigger names on their resume right now other than calz.

[Dave Rado]

Echols/Brewer was an eliminator.

And Echols pulled out. As I posted before. Can't you read? Or are you too ****** to understand.

WHAT ABOUT THOMAS TATE?????????????

I'd love hear why he had a shot at Joe's "title".

Why did he have a shot at Roy Jones' title? Or Julian Jackson's title? Or Ottke's title? He was a mandatory. In any case, he didn't fight Calzaghe, because he suffered a back injury and retired. And that was at the time that Calzaghe was trying to make fights with both Hopkins and Jones.

[S A M U R A I]

That's completely ridiculous, he looked like that because Dawson MADE him look like that

I actually agree with Jim Jeffries on this one, I always thought Adamek wasn't at his best.

Same old story, though... fighter struggles to make weight, fighter loses, fighter moves up. Same thing happened with Pacquiao when he got KO'd as a Flyweight, forcing him to move up (by three divisions).

HOWEVER... it is a nice win for Chad, I can't take nothing away from it because when that contract is signed you're effectively saying "I can make the weight". Can't do it any more? Well, that's just bad luck.



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