Do You Think A WWE Wrestler...

[Heru]

They actually can guys, weren't they making a Contenders series(or w/e it's called) with former College football players to be HW's or something like that? I'd give an athletic wrestler a good shot, not at the top HW's though.

Mark Henry vs Sam Peter anyone?

Batista vs David Haye


Lmao.

That's exactly the point though. A guy who never had fought above 140, Steve Forbes got to the Contender finals at jr. middle, anyone could have won those tournaments. Lesnar is the heavyweight champ with only a few mmgay fights under his belt. Chambers put the beats on a former college football player with like 15 fights on ESPN and knocked him out.

Even if they got an amateur boxing background on the level of Lesnar they're getting KTFO against the top of the heavyweights and it's been at its worst these last few.

[shadeyfizzle]

That's exactly the point though. A guy who never had fought above 140, Steve Forbes got to the Contender finals at jr. middle, anyone could have won those tournaments. Lesnar is the heavyweight champ with only a few mmgay fights under his belt. Chambers put the beats on a former college football player with like 15 fights on ESPN and knocked him out.

Even if they got an amateur boxing background on the level of Lesnar they're getting KTFO against the top of the heavyweights and it's been at its worst these last few.

Make some better analogies because the ones you are making are ******. Forbes is a former world champion. Chambers fought a nobody.

Put the klitschkos in a cage with Lesnar you wouldnt think Lesnar'd get ktfo.

[Heru]

Dude you're a ****in idiot. Brock Lesnar became heavyweight champ of the UFC because of the combination of his freakish size and strength and his already extensive wrestling background....in which he's had 25+yrs of experience.

If you had someone like let's say the big show....who has freakish size and strength.....if they already had the conditioning to go a full 12rds...even if they didnt have the greatest skills...they could dominate a good 80%of the heavyweight division just on pure freakish size.

Just look at Valuev. Nobody's mistaking that guy as a good boxer or even thinking he could beat either klitschko. but the guy's a heavyweight champion.

I don't give a **** what combination he has. If Teo Stevenson, Felix Savon, and/or anybody else with more than the equivalent of the amateur experience and credentials of Lesnar turned pro after a more than 5 year layoff could they become heavyweight champion of the world in 2 years time? Could they adapt to all the different aspects of the pro game and scheduled 12 rounders in less than 5 fights?

Valuev was blessed with a good chin and stamina to go with his size and he's only a heavyweight titlist not the heavyweight champion. If big show tried his hand at a 12 rounder after a life time of having fought 3 rounds and a 5 year layoff, he'd be gassing by the 5th. Read my posts before calling me an idiot, *******

[F l i c k e r]

Trying to be a ****? Do you have a problem with the truth? If Teo Stevenson, Felix Savon, and/or anybody else with more than the equivalent of the amateur credentials of Lesnar turned pro after a more than 5 year layoff could they become heavyweight champion of the world in 2 years time? Could they adapt to all the different aspects of the pro game in that time?

You admitted it yourself someone wouldn't be able to do it in less than 5 fights. Could the so-called 2 time former golden gloves champion Elijah Dukes beat a Klitschko, Arreola, Haye? **** even Valuev would outlast him and knock him out in a scheduled 12 rounder.

The thing you are missing is that MMA revolves ALOT around wrestling. If you cant wrestle, your screwed. Which is why you cant compare a golden glove boxer to a D1 wrestler with Lesnar's credentials. Just because he went to WWE doesn't mean he cant wrestle.

Boxing requires you to be an expert at punching. WWE wrestlers dont typically punch. Which is why they wouldn't become a HW boxing champion in less than 5 fights.

Hell a person who has boxed his entire life doesn't even become champion in under 5 fights. It takes what? 20 fights won to even get consideration for a boxing title?

[WhoreUs]

could ever become champ like in the UFShe? Because I don't. That's an embarrassment to their sport that Lesnar can go over their and dominate the top trialhorse and the former current champ/Hall of Famer with less than 5 fights.

I don't care what type of amateur boxing experience a WWE wrestler has, he would get spanked if he tried something like that; especially with that amount of fights.

you do know that brock lesnar was a ncaa wrestling champion and all-american wrestler right?

wrestling is a big part of mma.

[Heru]

Make some better analogies because the ones you are making are ******. Forbes is a former world champion. Chambers fought a nobody.

Put the klitschkos in a cage with Lesnar you wouldnt think Lesnar'd get ktfo.

Those 'analogies' weren't for the original question dumbass, it was for what he was posted. No former full time WWE wrestler/amateur boxer will become heavyweight champion of the world like Lesnar has in the UFShe. It should embarrass you that he's the champion of the world in the sport of mmgay.

[NakiFan]

I think The Big show, with some training could beat Valuev.

[F l i c k e r]

Those 'analogies' weren't for the original question dumbass, it was for what he was posted. No former full time WWE wrestler/amateur boxer will become heavyweight champion of the world like Lesnar has in the UFShe. It should embarrass you that he's the champion of the world in the sport of mmgay.

Your not making a fair comparison which makes you a dumbass.

Your basically saying; Bolt Husain cant break Michael Phelps swimming time record. Of course he ****ing cant, he doesn't swim.

OF COURSE WWE WRESTLER CANT, HE DOESN'T BOX!!!

[Heru]

The thing you are missing is that MMA revolves ALOT around wrestling. If you cant wrestle, your screwed. Which is why you cant compare a golden glove boxer to a D1 wrestler with Lesnar's credentials. Just because he went to WWE doesn't mean he cant wrestle.

Boxing requires you to be an expert at punching. WWE wrestlers dont typically punch. Which is why they wouldn't become a HW boxing champion in less than 5 fights.

Hell a person who has boxed his entire life doesn't even become champion in under 5 fights. It takes what? 20 fights won to even get consideration for a boxing title?

So amateur wrestling is more important to MMA than amateur boxing is to pro prizefighting? Your second and third paragraphs pretty much agrees with my question and posts so why are you trying to argue like what I posted is way off base?

Lesnar had never taken a punch in a sanctioned fight or competed in jui jitsu. Which leads to my next question: for all the garbage mma fans have spewed about it being real fighting and multi dimensional, how one dimensional is mma it that someone with no real experience in any other aspect besides wrestling is heavyweight champ.

you do know that brock lesnar was a ncaa wrestling champion and all-american wrestler right?

wrestling is a big part of mma.

See a few of my other posts man.

[WhoreUs]

See a few of my other posts man.

nah...... just made a comment.

no need to debate anything nor read this thread.

it's garbage.

doesn't belong on nsb. take this bull**** to the mma forum.