Pavliks Are Upset With Top Rank

[Pullcounter]

Pavlik is still disgruntled that Arum fed him Hopkins, a man that Arum said he would beat. No different than when Lacy was mad that Shaw fed him Calzaghe.

actually i think pavlik wanted that fight as much as arum did.

[mrosborne]

My problem with Loew is that be had all the wrong strategy for Hopkins and had no plan B or C for his fighter. He isn't a well rounded trainer. Plus all the crap he was saying about the Hopkins fight being an easy fight. Some guys should switch trainers some shouldn't, it all depends.

That's true, but NO ONE looks good against Hopkins, even if they get a victory over him. Personally I think Jack Loew let the hype get to his head and the sudden fame/success had its way with making him overconfident and arrogant.

[Bhopreign]

actually i think pavlik wanted that fight as much as arum did.

He was blinded by dollar signs and Hop's previous performance. In Lacy's case he didnt know Joe was as good as he was and thought he was going over there to knock Joe out.

[Bhopreign]

My problem with Loew is that be had all the wrong strategy for Hopkins and had no plan B or C for his fighter. He isn't a well rounded trainer. Plus all the crap he was saying about the Hopkins fight being an easy fight. Some guys should switch trainers some shouldn't, it all depends.

Plan A: Jab
Plan B: Double Jab

[DonTaseMeBrah]

pavlik should be thankful that they cancelled the show. its a no win situation for him. beating mora a 154 pounder doesnt do anything for u boxing legacy wise & he's a difficult out due to his style which would trouble your one dimensional boxing ass.

Can u imagine if Pavlik got outpointed by sergio mora?

Why not go for carl froch, kessler, heck even miranda has a bigger name than mora.

Only fighter he should be discussing at 160 is abraham.

[Walt Liquor]

Plan A: Jab
Plan B: Double Jab

Bro, if plan c was straight right and plan d was left hook, plan d was abandoned by round 3 and plan c abandoned by round 6. Luckily plan e, get blasted in the face worked all fight.

Ok I take it back, Loew had 5 gameplans.

Agreed, Loew was believing his own hype, but I don't think he has trained enough versatile fighters or against enough different styles.

[Kevin Jesus]

Top Rank had matched him well up to the time he won the titles. Since then, it's been poor matchmaking:

- Hopkins was a bad style match for Kelly in an unnecessary fight
- why Sergio Mora?
- why not Abraham?
- why not Sturm, Wright or Williams?

Kelly had to fight the mandatories Rubio and Lockett to keep his titles, but there's absolutely no good reason to fight Mora.

I agree, Arum needs to step it up with his fighters.

[Pullcounter]

He was blinded by dollar signs and Hop's previous performance. In Lacy's case he didnt know Joe was as good as he was and thought he was going over there to knock Joe out.

yeah, but pavlik still wanted it.

[jpitt]

yeah, but pavlik still wanted it.

How do you know? I seem to remember reports that Pavlik was sort of resigned to fighting Hopkins because he was told it was the only big fight out there for him. He should still be pissed at Top Rank for that. He had no business being in there with Hopkins at 170. What the f**ck is wrong with just being the middleweight champ and cleaning out the division. It was obvious from his performance in the second Taylor fight that he didn't belong anywhere north of 160, especially against a guy like Hopkins.

[GameBullDawg]

pavlik should be thankful that they cancelled the show. its a no win situation for him. beating mora a 154 pounder doesnt do anything for u boxing legacy wise & he's a difficult out due to his style which would trouble your one dimensional boxing ass.

Can u imagine if Pavlik got outpointed by sergio mora?

Why not go for carl froch, kessler, heck even miranda has a bigger name than mora.

Only fighter he should be discussing at 160 is abraham.

SaY Mang , does Pavlik beat Abraham ? Whatcha thinkin ?