An All Out Attack on Freddie Roach, Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao

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  • S A M U R A I
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    #11
    Originally posted by chiyoko
    To be fair Manny is overated.
    How is that fair?





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    • sandyvahra
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      #12
      Originally posted by **********
      The boxing world has been treated to some great fights from the pound for pound kings in recent years.

      Manny Pacquiao is the current king, but one has to wonder if he is being helped by some factors too.

      One thing is that Pacquiao has vacated the 135 lb. division and settled at 140, where he has dethroned the 140-lb. Ricky Hatton in spectacular fashion, and credit to him for that.

      The only thing that may bother a boxing fan is that his team, which includes Bob Arum and trainer Freddie Roach, seems to want to protect their most prized asset and milk him dry for all the dollars they can get from him.

      One smart thing they are doing is keeping Pacquiao at 140, where there's nobody worth fighting after beating Hatton. Staying at this division keeps him at arm's length from the 147 superstars; anyone below that will have to step up to fight Pacquiao.

      The best boxer in the world will require another good challenger to starve and shrink himself to fight him! Now that is what I call FRAUD.

      Why? Because Pacquiao has fought and won at the 147 division before (with a drained fighter).

      Roach and Arum must have noticed the magic in getting fighters to drain themselves before they face Pacquiao after the Oscar De La Hoya fight. Now they are demanding that Shane Mosley should get down to 142 lbs. and Miguel Cotto to 140 lbs. to fight Pacquiao.

      Now this is ridiculous!

      One thing I will always credit Floyd Mayweather Jr. for is that whenever he was challenging a good boxer, he never tried to trick that guy into a catch weight scenario to give himself an advantage over him.

      Roach has been reluctant to make Pacquiao face Mayweather after Mayweather is done with Juan Manuel Marquez because he knows that Mayweather took a good choice for his return to the ring.

      You see, Mayweather knows that fighting Pacquiao would mean dropping some weight to a catch weight. If he had come and faced a 147-lb. boxer, he would have fought it a different experience fighting at 143 or 142, as the Pacquiao camp would dictate.

      Roach got all worked up after Mayweather announced that he will fight Marquez because that in itself is a declaration by Mayweather that he is willing to fight Pacquiao at a catch weight.

      So now, Roach and Arum are planning to fight someone else who does not pose a serious threat. They say that they want someone who comes forward, because most of those who come forward always leave their chins to be hit, like Hatton.

      It will not be easy to see a Pacquiao-Marquez III bout, or Mayweather-Pacquiao, or Joshua Clottey-Pacquiao. Arum is busy organizing to face Cotto, but everybody knows that Clottey is a tough fight for him and Clottey could win. The only thing is that Roach and Arum DO NOT mention Clottey's name because the guy's defense is probably second to Mayweather's in the 147 division.

      Here's the one thing I would tell the Pacquiao camp: Keep your man at 140 and fight 140-lb. fighters; if you want to fight 147-lb. fighters, then step up in weight and challenge them.

      The issue of catch weights is a FRAUD!

      BAD TOP RANK! NAUGHTY NAUGHTY TOP RANK!
      I stopped reading there. Apparently you havent heard floyd is bringing up a lightweight to a catchweight in his next fight LOL.

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      • Spacey1991
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        #13
        Originally posted by elmalo28
        Yeah the catchweight issue is a fraud like floyd tricking jmm into coming up 9 pounds while fraud jr. only goes down 3 lmao!
        You do realize that Marquez was planning to move up to 140 anyway don't you? So regardless of the fact Floyd only made him move up 4 pounds from the weight he was going to fight at.

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          #14
          Originally posted by larrysmith
          this is true..he fought oscar at 147 but wont fight mosley or cotto at 147///roach said it himself..he wants the fighters drained and thats bull**** exspecially if he says pacman cant make 135 anymore...
          floyd fought oscar at 154 but wont fight anyone else there. same ish. deal with it.

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            #15
            Originally posted by chiyoko
            believe me if he fights Cotto,Mayweather or Mosley next he will be defeated.
            Same can be said for your boy Floyd.

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              #16
              Originally posted by chiyoko
              To be fair Manny is overated.His hook to the chin is overated,the guy's defence is not the best and he's not even worth what he thinks he's worth.Let's face it he's not the only boxer to move up in weight,Mosley,mayweather,Cotto,Judah,Oscar and many more moved up in weight.Manny of them were exceptional when they were fighting at lower weights and only got defeated once they had moved up.

              Just because Manny started around 106 means nothing.Any fighter would have started at that weight anywhere if they had started fighting as young as Manny.It'ss only that laws are different in Philipines than many countries that's why Manny started early.

              So what makes Manny special,he makes mistakes and closes his eyes when he throws a shot,a lot of his shots are wide and believe me if he fights Cotto,Mayweather or Mosley next he will be defeated.
              Nothing, really? You're alone on that. If you can't appreciate his move up in weight & what he's done for boxing your simply a bigger hater of pac than fan of boxing. Pac isn't the most technically sound fighter but who cares?? Is he not exciting? He certainly is more appealing to the general public so he's got to have done something right.

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              • larry x
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                #17
                Originally posted by sandyvahra
                floyd fought oscar at 154 but wont fight anyone else there. same ish. deal with it.
                if there was more big money fights at 154 floyd would be at 154.......who the hell is at 154????

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                • larry x
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                  #18
                  aw..pacman fans automatically attack floyd when pacman and his crew get exsposed...wtf??

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                  • Puntoyhauf
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Spacey1991
                    You do realize that Marquez was planning to move up to 140 anyway don't you? So regardless of the fact Floyd only made him move up 4 pounds from the weight he was going to fight at.
                    Like 4 pounds more wont make a fighter a bit sluggish?

                    Like how Floyd Jr made Hatton go 147 when Floyd can make 140 easily?

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                    • shogunn
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by larrysmith
                      aw..pacman fans automatically attack floyd when pacman and his crew get exsposed...wtf??
                      we're holding Floyd to the same standard you guys are Manny. Catch weights, etc. Manny is having his fighters move down a few lbs while he's moving up weight classes.

                      Floyd is doing the opposite, staying the same weight but have someone else move up. but it's ok with you guys since it's Floyd.
                      These past few days, its everyone else exposing Floyd, including ESPN, Mosley etc.
                      Last edited by shogunn; 05-23-2009, 11:10 AM.

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