Floyd vs Brian Kenny. Who owned who?

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  • DrewWoodside
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    #61
    Originally posted by Njord777
    Look Drew, I respect you as a poster. Seen you a lot through the years. I'm sure we could discuss the Mayweather-Kenny arguement, disagree, and yet not have some sort of prepubescent internet 'yo mama' festival.

    I really think Floyd made some real points though. Credit does elude him, as often pointed out on these forums. Mayweather isn't very eloquent, he stutters and has to constantly play the angry *******- therefore losing the ability to calmly, intelligently make a point- but I don't think Brian Kenny 'owned' him. I agree with a lot of what Floyd said.

    -Oh and for some of you, I know this must be illegal- but I have BOTH Floyd and Manny in my sig. (Gasp)!-
    I agree with what Floyd said but he at no point addresses the issue of fighting a lightweight. I shouldn't say own. I am attempting to use the lingo of these forums. Kenny had to bring PBF back to his questions on several occasions before allowing him to move on. It was almost like attempting to get a presidential candidate to answer real questions on serious issues. They can always weasel out of it if they want to. Did PBF raise some smart points? Yes, but in the end I think having that argument in the first place on SportsCenter exposes Mayweather's Welterweight campaign to some extent. At the end of the day it will help Mayweather get what he wants which is tension and hype which sells tickets. I don't however think Mayweather did well in this interview, and I'd be shocked if deep down he was truly pleased with the result.

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    • -Antonio-
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      #62
      Floyd makes an excellent point when talking about the difference in glove size. I didn't realize he used 10 ounce gloves against Hatton too. That's pretty ridiculous.

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      • Njord777
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        #63
        Originally posted by -Antonio-
        That's ******ed logic. Imagine if every athlete said that.

        "Haha I make more money than you, your opinion doesn't matter."
        Points Floyd had right in my eyes:

        Pacquiao is getting credit for being a different sort of fighter- being offensive- not just for the quality of his win over Oscar. Floyd fought a bigger, stronger, sharper and younger Oscar De La Hoya at a weight he'd never, and probably never will again, fight at again. Yet Manny is given much more credit on these forums; Kenny said he'd always given Floyd credit, but that smug reporter often says tongue in cheek comments on FnF about Mayweather and others.

        It is harder to knock someone out with 10 oz gloves. This wouldn't have mattered in the Oscar fight, but we don't know. He might have gotten Hatton out sooner wearing 8 oz's. That's not ridiculous.

        Mayweather said people are ragging on him for fighting a smaller Marquez but they want him to fight a smaller Pacquiao. True that. So, just because Manny has more pop, do you really think people who dislike Floyd will give him full credit if he beats Manny? I don't.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Mr._Pink
          yup.

          when brian asked about the delahoya/hatton fights all floyd had to say was , "Listen , i'm a boxer , manny is a slugger of course he goes for the ko earlier. Plus Oscar and Ricky was not the same fighters that I fought."

          simple.
          Hahaha, exactly. Just say that, and say "listen, I fought a younger version of Oscar, at his weight where he had all the advantages. And, tell me your honest opinion, did you think that fight was close enough to warrant a split decision?"

          Brian Kenney's smart, he would have been like "Touche". He just wants to get it out of Floyd, but Floyd kept acting like a 3 year old.

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            #65
            Like i said before this no-one owned anyone, Some of the question asked where ****** and ******ed question that they wouldnt have been directed at anyone who isnt named Mayweather.

            You cannot be a good boxing journalist when you're asking dumb questions like "Floyd Manny Pacqouiao beat Oscar and Hatton faster than you did so who was more exciting", How did he even come up with that sort of ******ed question?

            You would have thought a boxing journo would have more boxing sense than that.

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              #66
              Originally posted by savorduhflavor
              I think he is. Mexico is one reason. The second is, he's got the rep of "The guy that beat Pac", because of how huge Pac is right now, Marquez is pretty big by association. And they are using that in the promotion, which is smart.

              It always boggled my mind why Mosley wasn't a big draw, but he really isn't.
              The name Shane Mosley is still bigger than the name Juan Manual Marquez though imo. I'll agree it's debatable.

              I do think Cotto is a bigger name than Marquez and Floyd wanted no part of Cotto back int he day because he "couldn't draw."

              He can't win either way, but he can be honest.

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                #67
                Originally posted by -Antonio-
                The name Shane Mosley is still bigger than the name Juan Manual Marquez though imo. I'll agree it's debatable.

                I do think Cotto is a bigger name than Marquez and Floyd wanted no part of Cotto back int he day because he "couldn't draw."

                He can't win either way, but he can be honest.
                I think Marquez will bring more buys, being Mexican, than Shane would. Despite Shane's name, he hasn't proven he's a huge PPV draw. The Cotto-Mosley fight did well...but it wasn't amazing.

                I agree, though, that Cotto would bring more views than Marquez- post Clottey- more than likely even now, should PR still be behind him.

                That said, I don't see Floyd as a WW and I don't care if he stops campaigning at 147. Fight the best small men at 140. I don't give a ****.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by -Antonio-
                  He said who's win was more impressive. That question had an agenda obviously. Kenney is the only one who can interview Floyd. It's obvious ESPN called on BK because Floyd was just interviewed by another guy yesterday who was outgunned. He actually thought Pacquiao was undefeated.
                  The other gentleman was flat out ******ed. How can you go into an interview and not even know one of the fighter's records? Someone should have been reprimanded at the very least for that.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by raycorey
                    Like i said before this no-one owned anyone, Some of the question asked where ****** and ******ed question that they wouldnt have been directed at anyone who isnt named Mayweather.

                    You cannot be a good boxing journalist when you're asking dumb questions like "Floyd Manny Pacqouiao beat Oscar and Hatton faster than you did so who was more exciting", How did he even come up with that sort of ******ed question?

                    You would have thought a boxing journo would have more boxing sense than that.
                    He said who's win was more impressive. That question had an agenda obviously. Kenney is the only one who can interview Floyd. It's obvious ESPN called on BK because Floyd was just interviewed by another guy yesterday who was outgunned. He actually thought Pacquiao was undefeated.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by -Antonio-
                      The name Shane Mosley is still bigger than the name Juan Manual Marquez though imo. I'll agree it's debatable.

                      I do think Cotto is a bigger name than Marquez and Floyd wanted no part of Cotto back int he day because he "couldn't draw."

                      He can't win either way, but he can be honest.
                      I agree that Mosley's name is bigger. But name doesn't always equate to buys.

                      More random people on the street have heard of Mosley than Marquez, no doubt.

                      But I think Marquez has way more fans that are willing to shell out $50 to buy his fight ya know?

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