3-3 last 6 fights and still P4P #3???

[Mr. Fantastic]

That's some bull**** right there man.

[larry x]

all three loses controversial

[larry x]

then look at his wins....moved up to lightheavt-beat tarver,winky and pavlik..and he's 44

[THE REED]

beating winky and pavlik at 170 isnt THAT big to me...pavlik obviously a better win then winky.. Tarver was dead in that fight, still a good win though

[daggum]

That's some bull**** right there man.

considering those 6 fights were against p4p guys and most people thought he won all 3 of those fights he lost i don't think its that bad. if he had 6 easy fights against calzaghe type opponents he would probably be p4p number 1 right now then you would really flip your lid.

[Mr. Fantastic]

considering those 6 fights were against p4p guys and most people thought he won all 3 of those fights he lost i don't think its that bad. if he had 6 easy fights against calzaghe type opponents he would probably be p4p number 1 right now then you would really flip your lid.

I admit, I thought one of the Taylor fights was close but the Calzaghe one wasn't. If hugging time and time again wins you matches these days then I don't know what to say lol.

[Mr. Fantastic]

then look at his wins....moved up to lightheavt-beat tarver,winky and pavlik..and he's 44

This age thing with him is overrated as hell. MAYBE if he fought dudes in his weight class and beat them but majority had to come up in weight.

Pavlik isn't all that either, just getting hype due to his race. 160 is a weak ass division too.

[THE REED]

This age thing with him is overrated as hell. MAYBE if he fought dudes in his weight class and beat them but majority had to come up in weight.

43 isnt THAT overrated

[MANGLER]

None of those 3 losses were decisive, and they were all to ranked p4p fighters except the 1st Taylor fight I think. And he's beaten 3 p4p ranked fighters in that stretch also.

[glidesmack]

look at pacman's last four fights. Two shriveled ****s, a knockout and a nasty split decision.