If floyd is a ***** for fighting marquez, than hopkins is a ***** for fighting......

[T-97]

Well Pavlik actually fought at 165 or so...not 170

Nah, he's fought at 170 and there abouts (168-169) a few times. Although, they were against low level competition obviously.

[Roxas]

your point is?

hopkins is a *****.

you wish.....

[The Hammer]

well pick one:
Pavlik
Trinidad
De La Hoya

People move up to fight hopkins all the time, and i see noone taking anything away from him. So how in hell is it okay for hopkins, but a crime for mayweather?


BTW marquez is moving up 9 lbs. Dont make it seem worse than it is by wording it differently (2 WHOLE divisions) Pavlik moved up 10 lbs to face hopkins, Mayweather moved up 7 lbs to face de la hoya, and haye is movin up a hell of alot to face klitchko, so plz ppl, stop bitchin

True.

Floyd is a *****, but no more a ***** than Hopkins.

[skullduggery]

135 = Lightweight
140 = Light Welterweight
147 = Welterweight.

= 2 Divisions.

It's simple maths, it is a 2 division jump. No matter how you try to sugar coat it, it is. I'm a Mayweather fan, but this fight doesn't mean a lot. The only reason JMM has a chance is because of Mays 2 year lay off. The fight moving from 144 to 147 doesn't help much either. Also, it's up to 12 lbs, not 9lbs.

147 - 135 = 12.

they are fighting at 144 so........ yea

[skullduggery]

Pavlik's best weight is 160. Marquez's is 126, it's 18 pounds compared to 10.

Also Pavlik moving up in weight arguably retains more qualities then JMM does.

actualy, pavliks power is his quality, and he loses some of that moving up. If pavlik kept more of his qualities than marquez, than he would be p4p, not marquez

[Don Johnson]

Just another Floyd boy trying to take the heat off floyd. Trinidad was already established at 160, won a title there, and physically grew into the division. ODLH fought B-hop at a catchweight(158~), Pavlik already fought near that limit anyway(166 in the rematch against taylor). In both the pavlik and trinidad fights, B-hop was a heavy underdog as well.

[Don Flamenco]

He's not abitch at all. He risks himself to keep us entertained and you have to respect that. He is obviously a very gifted and a tremendous athlete. I just wish he fought some more people t5hat could possibly give him a better matchup - I want to see just how gifted of an athlete he is. Who knows, he might be the best boxer to ever live. But if he keeps continuing to call out low risk opponents, instead of going for the glory at 147, he will always have that hang over his name.

"Remember Pretty Boy Floyd?"

"Yeah, I remember. He was good at 135 lbs. He was even the best P4P, but he never fought any of the welterweights later in his career. Only if we could've seen him fight a truly good welterweight."

[The_Demon]

all hopkins best wins are against guys stepping up (apart from tarver) the only difference being he wasnt a favourite for them.still a great fighter though,one of the best defences ever imo,he has got better with age

[Roxas]

True.

Floyd is a *****, but no more a ***** than Hopkins.

no more ***** then Waldamir for fighting Haye....

[WhoreUs]

fuck hopkins.

carry on.