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  • Originally posted by Pinuno View Post
    Cut it out.

    Salud or any other advisers are there just to give some points. They are not the decision makers.

    All are just testing the waters. They are fishing for the best.

    If it won't work, then it won't.
    Absolutely, I was responding to people who were criticising Cotto for not wanting to go lower than 145 and weight drain himself. I don't see why he should go below 147, we have enough weight divisions as it is.

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    • Originally posted by Pinuno View Post
      Solo20, You're a proven Pac-hater and JMM nuthugger. You're just riding the issue of cotto/pac.

      But then, if you think cotto is brave enough, why can't you call him to fight Pavlik at catch weight?
      get the **** out of here nutthugger just becaues iam calling out Pac bull**** catchweight deal does not mean i hate Pac and iam not a JMM nuthugger is it not a fact that JMM has been fighting guys bigger then him with no bull**** catchweights. you cant say anything with the Pac tards around with out being called a hater what the hell has Pavlik got to do with anything lame. if Pac wants to fight WW with a bull **** catchweights he is a coward none of the top ATG did this when move up in weight THAT IS A FACT take that to the bank

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      • Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
        A little contradicting there eh? You had a different opinion to a similar case with May-Marquez.
        No, because Mayweather has never defended his Welterweight title against a top Welterweight, and because his fans justify this by claiming that he's not a natural Welterweight and saying he's still a natural Jnr Welterweight. If he's still a natural Jnr Welterweight then he should fight Marquez at 140. If he's a natural Welterweight (and he clearly believes that he is, given that he's insisted on fighting Marquez at 147), then he should fight some top Welterweights, and shouldn't be fighting Marquez.

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        • I'm with you Cotto! If Manny's handlers really want him to be considered the best P4P in the world (Manny will do whatever his handlers say) he should challenge Cotto at 147

          If you ask me, Cotto's already going out of his way at 145

          Let's see what Pac's really made of!

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          • Originally posted by solo20 View Post
            get the **** out of here nutthugger just becaues iam calling out Pac bull**** catchweight deal does not mean i hate Pac and iam not a JMM nuthugger is it not a fact that JMM has been fighting guys bigger then him with no bull**** catchweights. you cant say anything with the Pac tards around with out being called a hater what the hell has Pavlik got to do with anything lame. if Pac wants to fight WW with a bull **** catchweights he is a coward none of the top ATG did this when move up in weight THAT IS A FACT take that to the bank

            Then same to you JMM ****sucker. GET OUT.

            You're the worst JMM ****SUCKER/NUTHUGGER since youtube time.

            YOU ARE TOO ******ED TO THINK WISELY.

            YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A BRAIN TO THINK ABOUT.

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            • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
              In effect he has said exactly that, except he's said he's willing to come down 2lb but no more than that. I think it would be better if he said no to catchweight altogether, we have enough divisions as it is. But if he thinks he can manage 2lb but no more than that without being weight drained, and if he stands by that, I don't see how you can criticise him too much.
              fredie roach made it clear in the beginning that pacquiao will fyt either mosley or cotto, if either is willing to come down at a catchweight near the JWW division. if cotto thinks that he will be weight drained at this weight, then there's no reason for him to make the fight with pacquiao.

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              • Originally posted by solo20 View Post
                get the **** out of here nutthugger just becaues iam calling out Pac bull**** catchweight deal does not mean i hate Pac and iam not a JMM nuthugger is it not a fact that JMM has been fighting guys bigger then him with no bull**** catchweights. you cant say anything with the Pac tards around with out being called a hater what the hell has Pavlik got to do with anything lame. if Pac wants to fight WW with a bull **** catchweights he is a coward none of the top ATG did this when move up in weight THAT IS A FACT take that to the bank
                Marquez called out Mayweather to fight "at 140 or a little over". He tried to make the fight at catchweight, and only agreed to 147 in the end because he had no other choice. So your attack on Pac for also wanting to fight at catchweight is hypocritical in the extreme.

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                • Originally posted by GJaime99 View Post
                  I'm with you Cotto! If Manny's handlers really want him to be considered the best P4P in the world (Manny will do whatever his handlers say) he should challenge Cotto at 147

                  If you ask me, Cotto's already going out of his way at 145

                  Let's see what Pac's really made of!
                  Why would there be a need for PAC to challege Cotto in the first place?

                  Did you hear PAC ever challenge Cotto?

                  True. People behind them are looking at options if they can square in the ring!!!

                  If it cannot be done, why pissed?

                  Why insist PAC should fight cotto at the weight disadvantagous to either of them.

                  Let it go. You're being too emotional.
                  Last edited by Pinuno; 05-20-2009, 03:35 PM.

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                  • Pinuno just shut up your retarted. cotto dont need pac. pac needs the ww but the ww dont need him. get over it hater.

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                    • Originally posted by gotkayoed View Post
                      fredie roach made it clear in the beginning that pacquiao will fyt either mosley or cotto, if either is willing to come down at a catchweight near the JWW division. if cotto thinks that he will be weight drained at this weight, then there's no reason for him to make the fight with pacquiao.
                      AFAIR Roach said catchweight but didn't specify what weight he had in mind - I don't remember him specifying that it had to be "near the JWW division". When Salud subsequently said he wanted Pac to fight Cotto next, he didn't specify the weight at all. I don't think Arum said anything about the weight either. But I don't see why Cotto shouldn't respond to Arum and Salud calling for the fight by saying "if you want to make the fight, this is the weight I'm willing to fight at, and if Pac doesn't want to fight at that weight, no problem, I'll fight someone else." If Pac doesn't want to fight at that weight, no problem, he, too, can fight someone else. In terms of what's best for the health of boxing though, I think it should be at 147 or not happen at all.

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