Greb vs. Robinson PFP

[glidesmack]

who's better? I've heard it argued that greb's era was tougher. If that's true he wins by a landslide. If it's not...well there are no videos so this is a tough question. Unless it isn't.

[RightCross94]

robinson would box his ears off and win a points decision

[glidesmack]

I don't know about that. Greb had fantastic lateral movement. Pretty hard to box his ears off.

[hammerhiem]

I don't know about that. Greb had fantastic lateral movement. Pretty hard to box his ears off.

So did LaMotta, and SRR beat him 3 times out of four, three times he was a welterweight fighting a middleweight (still won twice) and the final time when SRR was at 160 he KO'd LaMotta.

[JAB5239]

robinson would box his ears off and win a points decision

And you are sure of this because of the extensive video you have seen Greb fighting in, Right?

I would expect Sugar to win, but looking at Grebs resume and taking first hand reports of the day into consideration this is no walkover. If Basilio (a great fighter in his own right) could take Robinson to the brink, there is no reason to think Greb wouldn't be more than capable of doing the same.

[RightCross94]

And you are sure of this because of the extensive video you have seen Greb fighting in, Right?

I would expect Sugar to win, but looking at Grebs resume and taking first hand reports of the day into consideration this is no walkover. If Basilio (a great fighter in his own right) could take Robinson to the brink, there is no reason to think Greb wouldn't be more than capable of doing the same.

that was an old past prime robinson who fought basilio, we are talking the best MW version of ray here (or so i assume)

no it wouldnt be a complete walkover, by all accounts greb was tough, had a good chin and threw alot of punches from different angles

ray however was a classy fighter with far superior skills and in his prime he had the legs to contend with those fast swarming guys

[JAB5239]

So did LaMotta, and SRR beat him 3 times out of four, three times he was a welterweight fighting a middleweight (still won twice) and the final time when SRR was at 160 he KO'd LaMotta.

By all accounts Greb was a much better fighter than LaMotta.

[RightCross94]

By all accounts Greb was a much better fighter than LaMotta.

resume wise yes, but head to head i doubt it

even though he did hold a big size advantage in many of their fights he did beat ray once and gave him some tough moments, he had an ATG chin and while not a puncher he had great physical strength and determination, plus he was underrated skill wise, he was good at playing possum and setting traps/springing suprise attacks and he could roll with punches very well

[Ryn0]

And you are sure of this because of the extensive video you have seen Greb fighting in, Right?

I would expect Sugar to win, but looking at Grebs resume and taking first hand reports of the day into consideration this is no walkover. If Basilio (a great fighter in his own right) could take Robinson to the brink, there is no reason to think Greb wouldn't be more than capable of doing the same.

That was NOT a prime Robinson.

[JAB5239]

that was an old past prime robinson who fought basilio, we are talking the best MW version of ray here (or so i assume)

no it wouldnt be a complete walkover, by all accounts greb was tough, had a good chin and threw alot of punches from different angles

ray however was a classy fighter with far superior skills and in his prime he had the legs to contend with those fast swarming guys

Tunney also had the legs to contend with fast swarming fighters and Greb beat him to a pulp the first time they fought. Tunney was also much bigger than Ray.