Tyson VS Vitali Klitschko

[PittyPat]

Lewis' chin is pretty underrated. I challenge any heavyweight in history to not get KOd by Rahman with that punch. Lewis' legs went a bit wobbly from time to time but he almost always recovered well.

What about the McCall one? I always considered it a lucky punch, but I don't know whether it would've sent everyone to the canvas. Was he known for his power? One thing's for sure, he's still never been stopped.

Then again, '94 wasn't anywhere near Lennox's prime. I consider his best years to be '97-'00, when I genuinely believe he could've beaten anyone past or present. But I don't go all nuthuggerish on that part - I just reckon so.

[cyutetrick]

Tyson in his prime ko's klitschko in the second with vitali barely survivng and attack in the first. you gotta understand how special tyson was at his prime, yes he was a head case and thats why he lost to buster douglas but thats why he lost, too much for tyson to take but in his prime the guy had speed and power like noone else. Its funny how arum said pacquiao has the best speed and power and combination that he has ever seen, ssshhh i guess he never watched tyson fight in his prime.

[gingeralbino]

What about the McCall one? I always considered it a lucky punch, but I don't know whether it would've sent everyone to the canvas. Was he known for his power? One thing's for sure, he's still never been stopped.

Then again, '94 wasn't anywhere near Lennox's prime. I consider his best years to be '97-'00, when I genuinely believe he could've beaten anyone past or present. But I don't go all nuthuggerish on that part - I just reckon so.

I watched a very ealry Lewis fight a couple of weeks ago on channel 4, maybe even 5. Dont know who he was fighting but he was skinny as hell in his early days (compared to later). When he filled out more he took punches better.
I've seen the Mccall KO, but not the full fight, I've always thought that punch wasnt THAT great but dont know what happened before. Still a big punch though, but I think Lewis a few years later still goes down but gets up and goes on to win.

[Mugwump]

I agree with all of that. Hence why I made a point in stating that it would most likely be a very drawn out UD for Tyson, especially if the Vitali who fought Sanders showed up - a nasty '80s Tyson would have him running backwards for dear life, but wouldn't be able to finish the job. Vitali's too elusive and would pawjab him at a distance all night long, whilst getting caught with bombs like he did against Sanders. Tyson would make it an inside fight, and a damn ugly one at that. Whether he snaps is down to which trainer he'd have.

With that said, since people constantly rag on about glass chins around here, doesn't Tyson technically count as glass-chinned since he was stopped 4 times and KTFO on 3 of those occasions?

I certainly don't think Tyson had a glass chin. He took some huge bombs from several fighters and stood up. The problem with Tyson was a glass HEAD. I can't see a long, drawn out twelve-round fight against Vitali (for a start he wouldn't run like Bonecrusher). He's too good a technician (with tons of power) to not catch Tyson repeatedly during the fight. Therein lies the problem. Tyson could not handle any fighter who came to fight, could back it up with skills and power and would not be bullied or intimidated. He'd blow a fuse by round eight or nine. Either he'd be disqualified like in the Holyfield fight or Vitali would take advantage of his mental breakdown and stop him. For me I'd class this as easy money.

I've always wondered about this. They say Lennox was glass-chinned because he was out on his ass twice in his entire career, but Tyson got stopped more times. How does that work?

It's the usual "reasoning" of the NSB numpties. If we could bring the Ali v Frazier fight forward they'd claim Ali has a glass chin because Frazier dropped him. Lennox's chin was just fine. He took and hit back after some massive bombs by Grant, Briggs and Vitali. It's what makes him one of the greats.

[hammerhiem]

Big V has a massively cast iron chin, but tyson would be all over him like a bad rash for 12 long painful rounds before getting a very very wide UD.

[Uturn]

Lol Prime Mike would have bashed Vitali silly.

Mike by brutal knockout in the 4 round

[PittyPat]

Tyson could not handle any fighter who came to fight, could back it up with skills and power and would not be bullied or intimidated. He'd blow a fuse by round eight or nine. Either he'd be disqualified like in the Holyfield fight or Vitali would take advantage of his mental breakdown and stop him.

Again, I'd agree with that with regards to '90s Tyson... except the version of him that got stopped by Holyfield was surely a different one to the '80s version. Back then, he had either D'Amato or Rooney guiding his path and making sure he wasn't going crazy. No signs of snapping or ear-biting back then.

Come the Douglas fight, there was neither man to keep him straight - just Don King, and a really fucked up head of his own. Post-Rooney, I certainly wouldn't bet against Vitali making Tyson look silly, just as you described. But I think the '86-'88 Tyson would probably do the same to Vitali (except without the finesse). Probably. :shk1:

It's the usual "reasoning" of the NSB numpties. If we could bring the Ali v Frazier fight forward they'd claim Ali has a glass chin because Frazier dropped him. Lennox's chin was just fine. He took and hit back after some massive bombs by Grant, Briggs and Vitali. It's what makes him one of the greats.

Numpties is right. :laff2: You're only the second poster with whom I've managed to have an objective and reasonable discussion, when it comes to Vitali or Lennox. The less said about the other posters, the better...

[Stickman]

Tyson with an easy but gassed-out UD, since there were a fair few guys he couldn't stop even in his prime. We all know Vitali's chin is pretty damn good, so expecting Tyson to stop him would be slightly implausible considering he couldn't KO Tucker, Bonecrusher or Ruddock.

I'm sure Vitali would sneak in a few rounds when Mike gasses out in the mid-rounds, though.

Are you ****ing kidding me? Klitchko has never been behind on the scorecards, ever. And you're picking ****ing TYSON to decision the guy? You seriously need to get a goddamned grip on reality.

[The_Demon]

tyson ko,i cant believe its even in question to be honest

[AntDawg]

The same Vitali that was getting hit by wild shots by a overweight out of prime Lewis and then got stopped? No way he beats Tyson in his prime.