Sit down with your favorite fighter off camera and he'll tell you himself

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Legacy and Money both go hand in hand. Sugar Ray, Duran, Hagler, etc all made mad money BUT fought each other one time or another. Of course fighters are going to tell you that its about money, because at the end of the day it is. But in order to gain the money, you have to earn the respect from the public who are going to pay to see you fight the best fighters. But to say most fighters don't care about legacy in the sport is a bit of a stretch. They want both the fame and the money.

Floyd is one of the exceptions to the rule as he's proved he's not very interested in fighting the big challenges that will also be lucrative contrary to what many on this site may think whether its a fight with either Cotto or Mosley.

Homework.

examine Leonard's run after Hagler, compare with the relevant names at 154-160.

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Homework.

examine Leonard's run after Hagler, compare with the relevant names at 154-160.

I don't get what you're trying to say? Are you saying he fought nobody either or...? I don't know what you mean

[Scott9945]

I made this post in Struglers thread but i had to make this it's own thread because it is so true.


Every boxer fights for money. They are called prize fighters, not legacy fighters. People talk about how back then, the best fought the best but truth is the be$t are still fighting the be$t, nothing has changed. Just happend to be that the best WW's back then were also the Be$t WW's back then. If you were a boxer, you too would want the be$t fights. That legacy talk is bull****, sit down with a pro boxer off camera and he'll tell you the truth himself.


Discuss this respectfully.

Best post that I've seen from you. The bottom line is always money.

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I don't get what you're trying to say? Are you saying he fought nobody either or...? I don't know what you mean

he got to the top, and then sit on his money. Just like Mayweather.

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he got to the top, and then sit on his money. Just like Mayweather.

That's not true.

Sugar Ray was already at the top of the sport even when he beat Benitez which made his loss to Duran a big deal. What made him even bigger though is coming back to make Duran quit in a rematch and also KO'ing a bigger Tommy Hearns there after.

By the time both Leonard and Hagler fought both weren't shot fighters, but they had seen their best days behind them though they both fought a hell of a fight.

The difference with Floyd is for the past 4 years since moving to WW he's been very careful with who he chose to fight while Leonard always took on the best fighters in his prime.

Not only that, but didn't Ray have a detached retina and still came back to fight regardless of his DR's opinions?

[rizkybizness]

I somehow doubt that Riz. Kev really tell you that?

just got out of a meeting

kevin threatened my life

[MANGLER]

just got out of a meeting

kevin threatened my life

Y'all need to calm down.

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That's not true.

Sugar Ray was already at the top of the sport even when he beat Benitez which made his loss to Duran a big deal. What made him even bigger though is coming back to make Duran quit in a rematch and also KO'ing a bigger Tommy Hearns there after.

By the time both Leonard and Hagler fought both weren't shot fighters, but they had seen their best days behind them though they both fought a hell of a fight.

The difference with Floyd is for the past 4 years since moving to WW he's been very careful with who he chose to fight while Leonard always took on the best fighters in his prime.

Not only that, but didn't Ray have a detached retina and still came back to fight regardless of his DR's opinions?

I am just going to copy an old post of mine, I am not going to bother arguing on what is obvious.

Ah, I just love it when ppl bring in Leonard on this topic.

1) Mayweather's 147 is Leonard's 168 their 4th weight class. Who did Leonard fought at 168?

two old smaller fighters (Duran, and Hearns and a severely dehydrated decent fighter, Lalonde a LHW who had to cut weight to 167)

2) As far as ducking and rematches.
a) Leonard went as far as retiring to not give Hagler a rematch after a close fight.
b) Hearns had to wait 8 years for a rematch.

Compare with what Mayweather did after his only close fight. Immediate rematch.

3) Go see for yourself who was fighting at 154-160 in 89-90, who had the 160 belts while Leonard was fighting at 160 for a 168 title against an old former lightweight and an aging former welter. In 1990 he even tried to get a 3rd fight with Hearns. I am sure Kalambay, McCallum, Nunn, Benn, Eubank were not good enough for him right?


1)+2)+3) = Leonard is a very bad example to make the point you are trying to make

[Kevin Jesus]

just got out of a meeting

kevin threatened my life

Y'all need to calm down.

I am not mangler jr!