I So Hope This Fight Is At WW and You Should Too!!!

[them_apples]

I agree with the last thing you said and Im a huge JMM fan but you act like he didnt lose to Jon, lose to another black good boxer in Norwood, and again, Floyd is just better in every catagory. He's the worst matchup in boxing for JMM. What can he do better than Floyd? Nothing. Im not saying that as a diss. Its true. Alot of people say that JMM is the smartest fighter in the game but even more say that Floyd is. Alot of people say that JMM has good speed but Floyd is faster. JMM has solid power but Floyd has more. JMM has no Defense, Floyd has ATG Defense. So on and so on. You are underrating Floyd's resume and severly overrating JMM. The only really good guy on JMM resume is Pac and Pac is made for JMM. JMM is not better than Castillo, he's not better then that undefeated Chico who was super huge and decapitating guys, he's not better then a 154 pound Oscar when you compare the size and so on. People act like Floyd is this runner/pot shot guy but he only does that against huge guys. He's going to walk down both Pac & JMM and dominate them.

You talk about the guys Floyd's fought but JMM has fought anyone like Floyd. It will be a shock to his system. Ive watched a million JMM fights and there are 2 common threads. He's a brilliant Offensive guy but he could fight a bum and get bruised up. His D is horrible. He gets hit all the time. People talk about him being a great counter puncher but its not counter punching if you actually get hit 1st. Its not like he makes the guy miss and then lands. He takes shots to give them but for the 1st time in his career he's going to fight a guy that he wont be able to hit hardly at all and for the 1st time he's not going to be the best pure boxer in the ring. Everyone will rip Floyd because not only will he win but he will dominate JMM and they will say that it proves Floyd was just to big when in reality he would always own JMM. He's just better all around and JMM knows it. Thats why he's always said that Floyd was the best. Pure boxers know pure boxers and he knows that Floyd is the best. Im not being a homer, Im being real. I think JMM is better than Pac and would kill Pac if Pac was a righty but I think Floyd kills JMM because he's just not better than him at anything. You have to have some advantage over Floyd or you have no chance. What can he do better then Floyd? You have to be bigger, stronger, or something. JMM has none of that

he didn't lose to Chris John, that was a huge hometown robbery, one of the worst of JMM's career.

If you were really a fan of JMM you would see that the closest thing to a loss he has is the Pacquiao fight...which was...debatable.

also, Marquez has upped his game a lot, he throws many more punches and has improved his offensive game as well since then, because of the robberies like Freddie Norwood and Chris John.

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he didn't lose to Chris John, that was a huge hometown robbery, one of the worst of JMM's career.

If you were really a fan of JMM you would see that the closest thing to a loss he has is the Pacquiao fight...which was...debatable.

also, Marquez has upped his game a lot, he throws many more punches and has improved his offensive game as well since then, because of the robberies like Freddie Norwood and Chris John.

actually I dint catch the John fight and still havent and I thought they use to say that he was robbed also but when I watched the JMM-Diaz fight, I remember hearing the Announcers talk about how the JMM was upset because they felt they won but they didnt act like it was a robbery. He said that they acted like it was a super tough fight where they barely won by like 1 round. They said John gave him alot of trouble. Is that true? Matter of fact I think they said it during the John-Juarez fight. Again, Im not dissin JMM. I think he's a beast and argubaly the #1 guy in the game but everyone has some bad matchups and I think the #1 bad matchup for him is Floyd. I also remember being really dissapointed with him in the 1st Pac fight. I picked Pac to beat MAB and I always thought JMM was the best one out of the Mexican trio. I was so happy to see the Pac-JMM fight and came away dissapointed in both guys. I was upset with Pac because he was so one demensional and let a guy come back and tie him despite knocking him down 3 times. I was upset with JMM because he actually let a one deminsonal guy hit him a million times with the same punch. A great pure boxer should never allow that to happened. They are both great but I think JMM's flawed D will kill him against Floyd. I think Floyd will treat his face like a punching bag

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Lets be real about 2 things. Floyd wasnt going to get any credit had this fight been at 143-144 as people were already ripping him the whole time and 2nd, JMM was not going to beat Floyd anyway. I swear people act like Floyd sucks on here. JMM had no chance. He doesnt have a win in any single catagory over Floyd and Im talking about even at LW. He's not better at anything.

The reason why I love this fight being at WW is what Ive said all along. The future. Stop overlooking the future. The whole time you guys cried about Floyd fighting WW's. He's doing this so he will fight the WW's. He wants his body to get used to that weight. As long as he stays at WW then he is no doubt going to fight the WW's. Remember what his Dad said? He said that Floyd is going to fight JMM as a tuneup and then fight Mosley next. Now I think that he will try to fight Pac 1st but if it doesnt go through then he will no doubt fight Mosley. Everyone should be happy. If you heard me talk on here then you always hear me say that my biggest worry is for Floyd to go down to 140 and then try to come back and fight the WW's. Hes too small and there too big for that. It will be a shock to his system. I was happier when they said the fight would be at 144 instead of 140 but I was still really worried about him fighting Mosley or Cotto. Its just uneasy to think about him moving down even those few pounds and then coming back up because he's that small. Thats why if youve heard me talk, Ive always said that I could easily see Floyd fighting Berto after these guys and then fighting Mosley because he will want a WW tuneup before he takes on a guy like Mosley but that it sucks because Mosley is already older. Now we dont have to worry about that. He wont need to fight Berto 1st to get back use to the weight.

Now I have no worries about him fighting Mosley next. It still will be somewhat of a shock to him because Mosley will obviously be much faster & stronger then JMM but as long as he never had to lose weight then its fine. Not only do I not want him to go under WW since he wont get credit anyways but my hope is that he comes in big for the 1st time. I hear some Floyd fans talking about they bet JMM & Floyd will still be close to the same weight but I hope Floyd finally comes in the ring at like 155 pounds. If he does that then its over. Mosley & Cotto are finished. They will still be bigger and outweigh him by 7-10 pounds but there's a huge difference from 147-155for a guy like Floyd. If he gets to 155 then he dominates those WW's plain & simple and if he does that afterwards then no one will care that he made JMM come up. I think Floyd is going to make Pac come up to because hes still calling the shots, even against Pac. If he wont that Floyd wont care and will fight Mosley. Again, he will fight Shane no matter what but I think he may not fight Cotto unless he can atleast get up to 152 pounds. Thats why this WW thing is good. Stop crying for JMM. Other guys have jumped divisions for big money fights. You have no choice and he wasnt going to win anyways. I so hope this is true because my worries of Floyd fighting the WW's in the future are over.

I bet Floyd's camp has never even really thought about coming down for the JMM fight and I dont mean that in a way like there scared but I mean that in a way like they truly never even really thought about it. I bet you the convo came up and all of them were like "if the motha ****a want you and want to get paid then tell him to come to you because you the man right now". and he is the man, atleast compared to Floyd. Everyone has to go to Oscar and now everyone has to come to Floyd. JMM doesnt have to do it. He could easily say No. He could easily go fight someone else for the same scraps or fight a guy like Hatton but he wants the big money and the fame and to get that you have to go to the guy. Again, Floyd was trying to fight Oscar when he was at LW and Oscar was heading to MW. He openly said that he will fight Oscar at any weight because he knew he had to do that but he felt that he was so good he could still win. Tell JMM to do the same or fall the *** back. He stepped up so stop crying

i dunno, watch the boxingscene interviews w/ floyd... floyd downplaying the mosley fight big time.

lolol floyd destroys every excuse that his stans come up for him.

[them_apples]

actually I dint catch the John fight and still havent and I thought they use to say that he was robbed also but when I watched the JMM-Diaz fight, I remember hearing the Announcers talk about how the JMM was upset because they felt they won but they didnt act like it was a robbery. He said that they acted like it was a super tough fight where they barely won by like 1 round. They said John gave him alot of trouble. Is that true? Matter of fact I think they said it during the John-Juarez fight. Again, Im not dissin JMM. I think he's a beast and argubaly the #1 guy in the game but everyone has some bad matchups and I think the #1 bad matchup for him is Floyd. I also remember being really dissapointed with him in the 1st Pac fight. I picked Pac to beat MAB and I always thought JMM was the best one out of the Mexican trio. I was so happy to see the Pac-JMM fight and came away dissapointed in both guys. I was upset with Pac because he was so one demensional and let a guy come back and tie him despite knocking him down 3 times. I was upset with JMM because he actually let a one deminsonal guy hit him a million times with the same punch. A great pure boxer should never allow that to happened. They are both great but I think JMM's flawed D will kill him against Floyd. I think Floyd will treat his face like a punching bag

you can download the fight at the video trading block, the announcer would cheer when John landed a jab.

I'm a big fan of both Pacquiao and Marquez, the only time Marquez has legitimately lost (legit, some say it could go either way) is from Pacquiao. When he and Pacquiao fought, he was the more skilled fighter, it was incredible watching the man's timing completely shut down Pacquiao's assault..that is..until he tasted the canvas and was forced to brawl. They both have improved, I'd rather see a pac vs Marquez 3 then a PAC vs Floyd.

JMM does have a flawed defense, not horrible, but not amazing. He's taken punches from bigger hitters then Mayweather though. He's fought fast guys as well, the man's timing is the best in the game right now, it's better than any fighter in the sport. I'm 50/50 on who will win even with the weight difference, not because Floyd is making a comeback, but because you can never count a guy like JMM out. On one hand Floyd is to defensive oriented and JMM get's frustrated and can't land, on the other hand JMM's timing catches Floyd every time he tries to open up and he wins based on activity.

Floyds the quicker guy, he's got better defense, but he also throws less and doesn't really hit that hard (sorry, I don't see his power, even at 140 it's not huge).

Floyd got huge reach, when he uses his jab it's a big problem, footwork is even, Floyd moves a bit more but JMM hardly ever falls short with his punches due to his footwork.

I have no issues with people picking Floyd, I'm not a mindless Floyd hater, he's a good fighter, but people are counting other good fighters out because of his 39-0, both JMM and Pacquiao are way, way better then anyone he has faced. If Floyd decisively beats JMM, I will give him props, no doubt. JMM is the best fighter he's ever faced, and he's coming off of a layoff, a win would be huge.

Floyd is not unhittable, Oscar hit him, even Hatton landed with a tiny bit of success. Marquez is way better than those guys. Oscar and Hatton landed next to nothing on Pacquiao, Marquez landed plenty.

[K-Nan]

I hope your breast cancer re-emerges. agressively.

Uncalled for. For real.

[them_apples]

actually I dint catch the John fight and still havent and I thought they use to say that he was robbed also but when I watched the JMM-Diaz fight, I remember hearing the Announcers talk about how the JMM was upset because they felt they won but they didnt act like it was a robbery. He said that they acted like it was a super tough fight where they barely won by like 1 round. They said John gave him alot of trouble. Is that true? Matter of fact I think they said it during the John-Juarez fight. Again, Im not dissin JMM. I think he's a beast and argubaly the #1 guy in the game but everyone has some bad matchups and I think the #1 bad matchup for him is Floyd. I also remember being really dissapointed with him in the 1st Pac fight. I picked Pac to beat MAB and I always thought JMM was the best one out of the Mexican trio. I was so happy to see the Pac-JMM fight and came away dissapointed in both guys. I was upset with Pac because he was so one demensional and let a guy come back and tie him despite knocking him down 3 times. I was upset with JMM because he actually let a one deminsonal guy hit him a million times with the same punch. A great pure boxer should never allow that to happened. They are both great but I think JMM's flawed D will kill him against Floyd. I think Floyd will treat his face like a punching bag

Kellerman said he thought John won the fight, he clearly never watched it. If they fought now with Reyes on, John would get knocked out.

this biggest robbery of JMM career was against Freddie Norwood however, I think that fight was fixed. JMM slips and it's called a knock down, then JMM drops Norwood at least 3 times and they are called slips. In between those rounds he's out boxing the guy and when the winner is proclaimed, Norwood put's his hands up before they even said he won.

Aside from the Pacquiao fight, he's unbeaten, if you think he beat Pacquiao..then he's got a legit "0" himself. Watch those robberies on your own time if you don't agree with me.

You said JMM let one dimensional version of Pac hit him with the same punch over and over again...more like one round, he adapted and came back and won at least 7-8 rounds of his own. If anything that is a testament of a great boxer. He's the only guy to have done that against Pacquiao, everyone else has been killed, even when he was green.