Marquez - "Mayweather is The Best, Not Pacquiao"

[boxamen]

You mean to say Pacs win over Marquez, which I bet you dont even believe he beat Marquez, is the reason why Pac is regarded as P4P #1? What are you smoking really?

Pacs resume without Marquez is far better then Marquez's resume. TRUE STATEMENT RIGHT THERE.
Pac 2 stoppage wins over Morales
Pac 1 UD over Barrerra and 1 stoppage earlier then when Marquez fought him.
Those 4 wins right there s#$% on Marquez's whole career.


I'll say it again NO ONE IS GONNA GIVE PAC CREDIT FOR IS WIN OVER MARQUEZ (except Pac fans), but Pac really doesnt need it.

Pacquiao didnt fight Morales nor Barrera in their prime, however Morales did beat Pacquiao once, Pacquioa fought old fighters suchas Barrera, Morales, De La Hoya, etc.

I believe Marquez is p4p 1, cause for me and all boxing experts he won both fights, Maruqez has waaaay better resume than Pacquioa.

[Doc Holliday]

elwills' posts were objective, and I was really only pulling him up because he underrated Hatton's record (which he's since accepted): his main points were valid. Yours are just silly.

Alright Dave, so I know you like to play devil's advocate, but wouldn't you agree that a JMM victory over PBF would put him at the top of the lb 4 lb lists?

[Dave Rado]

Alright Dave, so I know you like to play devil's advocate, but wouldn't you agree that a JMM victory over PBF would put him at the top of the lb 4 lb lists?

At the top of my personal list, probably, depending on whether, and if so how much, ring rust appeared to be a major factor; and on whether the win was decisive. In terms of what The Ring's ratings panel would decide, though, I honestly don't know. Pac's last win over Hatton was extremely impressive, and it's very unusual if not unheard of for a #1 P4P fighter to be deposed while he's still winning fights impressively against credible opposition.

[thebowtod]

of course marquez is going to say mayweather is better, he is fighting him

[D.I.E.S.E.L]

While most of the boxing world views Manny Pacquiao as the best boxer in the world, Juan Manuel Marquez is not one of them. Marquez considers Floyd Mayweather Jr. as the best fighter in boxing. He faces Mayweather on July 18 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Marquez is convinced that he beat Pacquiao in 2004, when they fought to a draw, and in 2008, when Pacquiao won a close split-decision. [details]

if he really said that Mayweather already won the fight. Marquez just wants his 10 mill

[Dave Rado]

Pacquiao didnt fight Morales nor Barrera in their prime, however Morales did beat Pacquiao once, Pacquioa fought old fighters suchas Barrera, Morales, De La Hoya, etc.

I believe Marquez is p4p 1, cause for me and all boxing experts he won both fights, Maruqez has waaaay better resume than Pacquioa.

Barrera was certainly in his prime in their first fight.

Morales was close to his prime in their first two fights. And even in the third fight he was only 30, the same age as Pac is now. To the extent that he was shot in the third fight, it was more than likely the first two Pac fights that caused it, because it sure as hell wasn't because he was old.

As for the two Pac-JMM fights, most experts said that both fights were very close indeed, and very difficult to score. No very close fight can ever be called a robbery. Anyone who can't accept that a very close fight can legitimately be scored either way, and that in those circumstances, the judges' decision is final, is just a very bad loser. It is fair to say that both fights were so close that there needs to be a rubber match, though.

But who has Marquez officially beaten who is a likely future Hall of Famer? And how many lineal titles has he won? On both counts, Pac's résumé is much better.

Marquez is a truly great fighter, but to say his overall résumé is way better than Pac's is ridiculous.

[Doc Holliday]

Hmm...I just read an article at east side that says the fight is actually going to be at 147. If that's the case, I take back what I said about this fight being for the true lb for lb #1 spot. If Floyd wins, it doesn't prove much. At that weight he should be fighting Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto.

If Marquez wins he's not ATG, he's a boxing god.

[Dave Rado]

Hmm...I just read an article at east side that says the fight is actually going to be at 147. If that's the case, I take back what I said about this fight being for the true lb for lb #1 spot. If Floyd wins, it doesn't prove much. At that weight he should be fighting Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto.

If Marquez wins he's not ATG, he's a boxing god.

That article was based on an article in The Ring, which is here.

So much for the constant claims by Floyd's fans that Floyd is a natural Jnr Welterweight ...

[boxingfan76]

Pacquiao didnt fight Morales nor Barrera in their prime, however Morales did beat Pacquiao once, Pacquioa fought old fighters suchas Barrera, Morales, De La Hoya, etc.

I believe Marquez is p4p 1, cause for me and all boxing experts he won both fights, Maruqez has waaaay better resume than Pacquioa.

i agree brah i dont see how pacs resume stronger at all, team pac is milking that cow while jmm is taking the harder road, last 3 very carefully picked opponents for pac,now.they are jmm haters they have a chapped ass cuz jmm fot floyd bout and they didnt.

[boxingfan76]

Barrera was certainly in his prime in their first fight.

Morales was close to his prime in their first two fights. And even in the third fight he was only 30, the same age as Pac is now. To the extent that he was shot in the third fight, it was more than likely the first two Pac fights that caused it, because it sure as hell wasn't because he was old.

As for the two Pac-JMM fights, most experts said that both fights were very close indeed, and very difficult to score. No very close fight can ever be called a robbery. Anyone who can't accept that a very close fight can legitimately be scored either way, and that in those circumstances, the judges' decision is final, is just a very bad loser. It is fair to say that both fights were so close that there needs to be a rubber match, though.

But who has Marquez officially beaten who is a likely future Hall of Famer? And how many lineal titles has he won? On both counts, Pac's résumé is much better.

Marquez is a truly great fighter, but to say his overall résumé is way better than Pac's is ridiculous.

casamayor isnt a hall of famer? but david diaz is? or ricky hatton cmon dude thats just ridiculous, pac has beaten nothing but shot previously ko'd dudes, with a name his signature win is delahoya, and you cannot say delahoya was in his prime either.