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  • Regardless what anyone says, PBF is undefeated a natural welterweight with lightning speed and excellent ring inteligence. He is P4P and everyone is chasing him even with a two year hiatus. JMM, PAC, COTTO, PPW, SSM etc.....

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    • Every one is chasing him because he made to many big claims. As far as comparing himself to Sugar Ray Robinson. How do you go about claiming to be the best Welter Weight, with out fighting the best?

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      • Originally posted by chinoy View Post
        A former P4P #1 beating a lot smaller current P4P #2 is already expected. how could you give credit to Mayweather for that win.....
        Note that I said decisively. It would have to be a knockout or a near shutout of JMM for Floyd to take back the #1 spot.

        My reasoning is this: JMM and Pac are pretty much equal. after 24 rounds, Pac only has him by a point and JMM has won more rounds. So a blowout by Floyd puts him slightly ahead of Pac. I also said the winner should still have a showdown with Pac, to solidify their claim for P4P king.

        Also, I think JMM is a harder fight for Floyd than Pac would be. Pac had so much trouble with a technician like Marquez who is older and about the same size. Though Manny has improved a lot, I still think a technician like Floyd boxes his ears off with his size/reach advantage. The age diff. btwn PBF and Pac would be negligible.

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        • Originally posted by elwills View Post
          Note that I said decisively. It would have to be a knockout or a near shutout of JMM for Floyd to take back the #1 spot.

          My reasoning is this: JMM and Pac are pretty much equal. after 24 rounds, Pac only has him by a point and JMM has won more rounds. So a blowout by Floyd puts him slightly ahead of Pac. I also said the winner should still have a showdown with Pac, to solidify their claim for P4P king.

          Also, I think JMM is a harder fight for Floyd than Pac would be. Pac had so much trouble with a technician like Marquez who is older and about the same size. Though Manny has improved a lot, I still think Floyd boxes his ears off with his size/reach advantage. The age diff. btwn PBF and Pac would be negligible.
          pac has a better chance of beating floyd. we dont even know if marquez can adjust to the weight. he didn't look invincible against his last two opponents. pac has all the tools speed movement power southpaw stance. i will give full credit to marquez if he wins. pac is still the guy to beat.

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          • Originally posted by KennyWeldon View Post
            You're thinking too hard man! You clearly don't have the heart of a fighter, when you beat somebody and get robbed from the victory, and everybody praises the other guy...even though deep in your heart you know you won, you feel you must whoop his ass again to prove you won! Have you ever boxed in your life? you sem like you have don't have a competitive side at all, just gossip like a *****!
            Great reply. I don't see how anyone can be so foolish to call JMM a crybaby, etc., just because he wants to get right back in the ring with Pac to prove himself. The man is all heart.

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            • Of course he would say that. Marquez is obsessed with Pacquiao. Pacquiao is the best.

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              • Originally posted by elwills View Post
                My reasoning is this: JMM and Pac are pretty much equal. after 24 rounds, Pac only has him by a point and JMM has won more rounds. So a blowout by Floyd puts him slightly ahead of Pac. I also said the winner should still have a showdown with Pac, to solidify their claim for P4P king.
                i agree to most of your reasoning but to say Pac and JMM are equal is like comparing apples with oranges. i have seen JMM fights with baby bull and the old and shot Casamayor....i was not impressed at all.....

                if JMM can do to ODLH and to Hatton what pacman did to both men then they are equal....
                Cotto lost to Margarito But Margarito lost to Mosley who lost to Cotto.....

                likewise, there is no guarantee that JMM can beat Hatton at 140 lbs..

                but it is more likely that Pacman KTFO both baby bull and old casamayor

                that is just my humble opinion

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                • Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
                  pac has a better chance of beating floyd. we dont even know if marquez can adjust to the weight. he didn't look invincible against his last two opponents. pac has all the tools speed movement power southpaw stance. i will give full credit to marquez if he wins. pac is still the guy to beat.
                  That remains to be seen. My only concern is that we won't see PBF/Pac due to disagreements over money and the fact that Arum hates Floyd and Al Haymon.

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                  • Originally posted by fcastro1 View Post
                    pac has a better chance of beating floyd. we dont even know if marquez can adjust to the weight. he didn't look invincible against his last two opponents. pac has all the tools speed movement power southpaw stance. i will give full credit to marquez if he wins. pac is still the guy to beat.
                    His last 2 opponents were 2 of the best the division had to offer. Only 1 fighter pac has fought in his last 3 fights could be said to be the same. Pac looked far from invincible against marquez, if he were to fight floyd, it would be more of the same, pac would have his hands full, as already admitted by his own adviser.

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                    • Originally posted by elwills View Post
                      That remains to be seen. My only concern is that we won't see PBF/Pac due to disagreements over money and the fact that Arum hates Floyd and Al Haymon.
                      yes, I agree with you. there would be a lot of disagreements about money if they do come to the negotiating table.....

                      there is a big chance PBF-Pacman fight would not push through

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