Ah, Flashback of a Brian Kenny-Mayweather arguement.

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  • javelin_fangs
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    #51
    And another quick thing to point out, Floyd brought up a good point about Morales fighting Pacquiao even after he lost to Raheem. Look, Pacquiao gets a lot of credit for beating Morales twice, but he also lost to Morales. Pacquiao didn't actually beat Morales until AFTER Morales lost to Raheem in lopsided fashion. Why did Pacquiao still go ahead and fight Morales? Two reasons, money and revenge.

    But to this day Pacquiao will always have that loss to Morales on his record, but he gets more credit for the wins against a shot Morales than Mayweather gets for any of his wins after this Kenny interview. It's just further proof that it wouldn't matter what Floyd would do...people like Kenny, Merchant and their acolytes are still going to hate on Floyd.

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    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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      #52
      Originally posted by javelin_fangs
      I mean yeah, but look every fighter Kenny wanted to see Floyd fight he actually ended up fighting and yet the only one who actually gave Floyd any trouble was Zab Judah (the guy Kenny was going ballistic about Floyd fighting). But even though Floyd fought and dominated both Baldomir and Hatton as Kenny was demanding, to this day Kenny claims that Floyd "hand picks" opponents.

      But yet you haters still refuse to admit that no matter who Floyd fights there'll be people out there who say Floyd "hand picks" his opponents.
      Thats what he have done till this point, why people will think different of him?

      I mean, After Castillo, what risk he have taken?

      When it was time to cement his legacy by fighting Cotto, he retire, period.

      No he came back to cah on the sport again, by fighting JMM and Pacquiao. " guys he will beat, and do to their status, FLoyd will claim he came back beat the 1 and 2 P4P fighters andhe will rerire without seriously taking a risk.

      Im glad Cotto will spoil his Plans, and after Cotto-Pacquiao gets made, lets see if he retires or fights moley like he should!!!!!!!!!!

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        #53
        Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
        Thats what he have done till this point, why people will think different of him?

        I mean, After Castillo, what risk he have taken?

        When it was time to cement his legacy by fighting Cotto, he retire, period.

        No he came back to cah on the sport again, by fighting JMM and Pacquiao. " guys he will beat, and do to their status, FLoyd will claim he came back beat the 1 and 2 P4P fighters andhe will rerire without seriously taking a risk.

        Im glad Cotto will spoil his Plans, and after Cotto-Pacquiao gets made, lets see if he retires or fights moley like he should!!!!!!!!!!
        Going up to 154 without a genuine KO punch is a risk. Fighting three consecutive southpaws who always fought at higher weights than him is a risk. Including Marquez, the last five fights Mayweather has fought have come against guys who have won linear world titles.

        It's basically my point though that you and many others will come up with a reason why that's not at all risky. The real reason is because he's better than all of those guys. But if anyone else were to fight them those would be considered risky fights.

        If he beats Marquez and Pacquiao, you can go ahead and believe that he didn't accomplish anything. If you were to believe that you'd be a damn fool.

        Another thing is that Mayweather didn't retire to avoid Cotto. He retired because he's had injury problems. He took time to heal. If you really believe in your boy Cotto you'd want him to beat a healthy Mayweather. But the truth is the moment that fight gets signed (and I have absolutely nothing against Cotto) it'll happen against a healthy Mayweather, which is a tall task for anyone no matter how tough he is.

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        • Ch@mpBox@PR
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          #54
          Originally posted by javelin_fangs
          Going up to 154 without a genuine KO punch is a risk. Fighting three consecutive southpaws who always fought at higher weights than him is a risk. Including Marquez, the last five fights Mayweather has fought have come against guys who have won linear world titles.

          It's basically my point though that you and many others will come up with a reason why that's not at all risky. The real reason is because he's better than all of those guys. But if anyone else were to fight them those would be considered risky fights.

          If he beats Marquez and Pacquiao, you can go ahead and believe that he didn't accomplish anything. If you were to believe that you'd be a damn fool.

          Another thing is that Mayweather didn't retire to avoid Cotto. He retired because he's had injury problems. He took time to heal. If you really believe in your boy Cotto you'd want him to beat a healthy Mayweather. But the truth is the moment that fight gets signed (and I have absolutely nothing against Cotto) it'll happen against a healthy Mayweather, which is a tall task for anyone no matter how tough he is.
          He went and fought a part time fighter at 154. JMM is just a damn mistmatch period. FLoyd is too big wheter you admit it or not.

          Pacquiao would be a good win, but then he will retire. He wont fight the real threats that will really secure his legacy.

          He is the one whos fault it is. he weighted of the WWs to beat each other so he can come and fight big money fights, isntead of facing them. My ass with his ass, Paulie maliggnaggi have **** up hands and he still fight his fights.

          No if he fights Cotto, people and beats him, people can say Cotto was damages goods from the Magarito fight. and if he fights Mosley, peopl can say ;osley is too old now.

          Not me I will give him props if he does.

          But he brought this on himself, for not fighting the people, he needed to fight when he needed to fight them.

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          • javelin_fangs
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            #55
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            He went and fought a part time fighter at 154. JMM is just a damn mistmatch period. FLoyd is too big wheter you admit it or not.

            Pacquiao would be a good win, but then he will retire. He wont fight the real threats that will really secure his legacy.

            He is the one whos fault it is. he weighted of the WWs to beat each other so he can come and fight big money fights, isntead of facing them. My ass with his ass, Paulie maliggnaggi have **** up hands and he still fight his fights.

            No if he fights Cotto, people and beats him, people can say Cotto was damages goods from the Magarito fight. and if he fights Mosley, peopl can say ;osley is too old now.

            Not me I will give him props if he does.

            But he brought this on himself, for not fighting the people, he needed to fight when he needed to fight them.
            Someday, when you're a bit older, and have been watching boxing long enough to remember multiple generations of fighters you'll realize that that last sentence is not nearly as true as you think it is right now. Trust me when I tell you this...Mayweather fought a lot of great fighters. He fought more great fighters than most hall of famers, especially hall of famers from the last 40 or 50 years.

            Mayweather's legacy is secure. He could fight and lose to Marquez, Pacquiao, Cotto and Mosley and still be in the hall of fame without question.

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            • Ishy Aytan
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              #56
              Originally posted by Google_It_Bitch
              Gatti was a paper champion though. Where is the credit in that?

              Arturo Gatti? ahahahahahhaaahahaa

              Alfonso Gomez beat Gatti worse than Floyd did.
              :lmfao:

              Judah, destroyed by Cotto.
              Baldomir was and still is trash.

              Hatton, garbage, and was destroyed in under 2 rounds by the real Pound for Pound King Manny Pacquiao. And yet went 10 rounds with the fraud mayweather.

              ODLH went 12 rounds with PBF.
              Manny the real king mopped the motha phuking floor with ODLH and made ODLH say NO MAS.

              Floyd is a fake champion.

              Floyd said a split decision is not a real win?
              Guess what Floyd? You got a split decision over ODLH
              :lmfao:
              Floyd owned himself in this video.



              All this happened AFTER Floyd beat them..... (apart from Baldo)



              You just got OWNED for being so ******!


              Uriah Grant ko'd Thomas Hearns in 2 rounds. Does that make Uriah Grant a better fighter than Ray Leonard, because it took Leonard 14 rounds?



              ***in dumb idiot.

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              • cottothechamp
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                #57
                lol floyd go fight someone that presents a risk to u, miguel cotto. dude who tkoed judah, a guy who went 12 with u.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by FreshPrince
                  Floyd looks like an idiot, and at one point looks close to tears. But to his credit he did beat Baldomir and Hatton after this interview.

                  You have got to be joking , close to tears my god what are you fellas reading into things ,,, Kenny had his valid points and Floyd never really had the right answers for him it was more argumentative from both than interview ,,, so what did Floyd do after the video , he beat every fighter mentioned that he could fight , all of them Hatton Judah and Baldy ,, so really who got owned when looking at that today ,,,, I really cant believe the way you fellas hunt down old news to try and throw some **** Floyds way , he went on an beat all of Kennys whys ,,, today that tells me who got owned .

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by javelin_fangs

                    Another thing is that Mayweather didn't retire to avoid Cotto. He retired because he's had injury problems. He took time to heal.
                    Floyd retired because he said he had accomplished everything and had nothing else to prove. He said he no longer had the passion to fight.

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                    • javelin_fangs
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by cottothechamp
                      lol floyd go fight someone that presents a risk to u, miguel cotto. dude who tkoed judah, a guy who went 12 with u.
                      If Mayweather doesn't get hit low in round 10 and the riot doesn't break out after Roger Mayweather went into the ring, Judah'd've been stopped either in 10 or 11. I don't think there's much debate about that either. Judah was my favorite fighter at the time. I really wanted him to win. I was at the fight and wanted Floyd DQ'd. I still think that in a fair world Floyd'd've been DQ'd, but Judah was about to be KO'd when he hit Floyd low.

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