Floyd Jr. beat Marquez already FOLKS WAKE UP!!

[WhoreUs]

i don't give a **** about height , fight night weight , reach , shoe size , how much they weighed when they were born , where they fought when they were 15...all i know is

FLOYD HAS PROVEN HIMSELF CAPABLE AT 140 , 147 AND EVEN 154 AND MARQUEZ HAS YET TO FIGHT ONE TIME ABOVE 135.

[Little Killer]

Most likely JMM will outweigh PBF fight night

[Roxas]

hey man where u gettin all those pics from?

[RodBarker]

Oh yeah that's the weight. The weight they don't have to make because there aren't same day weigh ins.

And the point is what , same day weighin would be much better and stop all this big manipulation of weight to a certain large degree ,, and you know whats funny if Floyd and JMM had to weighin right before the fight at there best fighting weight JMM would be 144is and Floyd 147ish

Wtf is so hard to understand about one guy being proven at one division and another guy who's opponents never had the luxury to make 147 and fight at 149.
They all had to make 135 or less, not long before.

One day weight gain is not your natural weight, I agree. But everyone JMM had to fight had to make `35 or less, 130 at least 50 times.

He's in uncharted waters.

What so hard to understand that on the night they fight there will be 4 pound between them , everything else is pure speculation , and why do you place so much emphasis on dehydrated weight 30 hrs before the only time the weight matters in the fight , some crazy logic you got there mate

[Roxas]

Most likely JMM will outweigh PBF fight night

He cud do actually....

[RodBarker]

i don't give a **** about height , fight night weight , reach , shoe size , how much they weighed when they were born , where they fought when they were 15...all i know is

FLOYD HAS PROVEN HIMSELF CAPABLE AT 140 , 147 AND EVEN 154 AND MARQUEZ HAS YET TO FIGHT ONE TIME ABOVE 135.

In other words you dont understand the workings thats why you think in such basic way .

[Guest]

Oh yeah that's the weight. The weight they don't have to make because there aren't same day weigh ins.

And the point is what , same day weighin would be much better and stop all this big manipulation of weight to a certain large degree ,, and you know whats funny if Floyd and JMM had to weighin right before the fight at there best fighting weight JMM would be 144is and Floyd 147ish

Wtf is so hard to understand about one guy being proven at one division and another guy who's opponents never had the luxury to make 147 and fight at 149.
They all had to make 135 or less, not long before.

One day weight gain is not your natural weight, I agree. But everyone JMM had to fight had to make `35 or less, 130 at least 50 times.

He's in uncharted waters.

What so hard to understand that on the night they fight there will be 4 pound between them , everything else is pure speculation , and why do you place so much emphasis on dehydrated weight 30 hrs before the only time the weight matters in the fight , some crazy logic you got there mate

What's so hard to understand that you are making rules up that don't exist?
Floyd has fought plenty of guys above and at this weight. JMM has fought none.
How is the logic crazy when it's the truth?

You've obviously never had to drop weight for a fight and then you gain 10-15 pounds fight night. You honestly think that's the same thing.

That that weight is natural?

Puhleeze.

[Kinto]

The odds are against Marquez even though Mayweather was away for 2 years. Hopefully Marquez will shock all of us.

[Little Killer]

What's so hard to understand that you are making rules up that don't exist?
Floyd has fought plenty of guys above and at this weight. JMM has fought none.
How is the logic crazy when it's the truth?

You've obviously never had to drop weight for a fight and then you gain 10-15 pounds fight night. You honestly think that's the same thing.

That that weight is natural?

Puhleeze.

Are you ******. Floyd will weigh 148 fight night against JMM, the same weight that Pacman was when he fought JMM at 130. So JMM has fought someone the size of Floyd that also has the handspeed of Floyd.

Better yet, JMM beat that guy

[RodBarker]

What's so hard to understand that you are making rules up that don't exist?
Floyd has fought plenty of guys above and at this weight. JMM has fought none.
How is the logic crazy when it's the truth?

You've obviously never had to drop weight for a fight and then you gain 10-15 pounds fight night. You honestly think that's the same thing.

That that weight is natural?

Puhleeze.

No Im just stating the facts , best you go and do some research , or better still drop in a gym or talk to a trainer and ask them whats involved in making weight for a fight ,,,, dont tell them you think fight night weight dont mean anything keep your trump card up you sleeve so you can give them a big belly laugh when you tell them lets be serious here it is you that has never had to make weight my friend if you did you would not be talking the talk you do , it is your lack of understanding thats shines through .

Have a read

http://www.boxing-monthly.co.uk/content/0008/two.htm

" Jim Watt, former lightweight champion of the world turned television pundit is one of the most vocal supporters of same-day weighing in. He is one of a growing minority of people within the sport who feel that the dangers of having huge weight discrepancies between fighters are greater than the dangers of dehydration.

Watt argues that too many fighters step off the scales to go on a 24-36 hour binge and pack on as much weight as possible before the first bell. He believes it is a case of a good theory making bad practice.

"Don't get me wrong, the idea is good," said Watt when I telephoned him. "Many of the dangers of boxing have been linked with dehydration, and so giving fighters 24 hours to re-hydrate their bodies therefore must be a good idea on paper.

"But the problem is that this time period is getting abused. Fighters who should not dream of fighting at certain weights are punishing their bodies, murdering themselves, to make the limit and then rely on this period of up to 36 hours to get back up to something like normal again.

"If they had to weigh in on the day of the fight, and if they wanted to fight with any sort of strength, they would be forced to fight at a more healthy weight for their bodies. This 24-36 hour period is giving fighters a lot of incentive to fight at the wrong weight."

And the dangers are exacerbated when only one fighter packs in the pounds. "When someone fights for a title at 12 stone [168lbs], that's exactly what he's supposed to be - a 12 stone fighter. He's not supposed to be a bloody cruiserweight. It's totally unfair to those boxing at a more natural weight - the ones who aren't taking these silly chances with their health. Sometimes these guys are giving away a full stone in weight and I don't need to say that's dangerous. They are at a massive disadvantage. Essentially these fellows are punished for been sensible and abiding by the rules."

And this one

http://www.grapplearts.com/How-to-Cut-Weight.html

Why Cut Weight?

Many people not involved in combative sports do not understand why someone would subject himself to water and food restriction to cut weight in the first place. I usually explain this with the example of weight classes. What this means is that most combative sport competitions have weight limits for certain classes. Since the object of being in a certain weight class would be to be the strongest and heaviest person in that class, many athletes cut their weight down to a lower class only to add weight after the weigh in. In the athlete’s mind, they are then heavier for the actual fight, and have the potential to be stronger than their opponent (as long as they don’t do the exact same thing).

The weigh ins are also usually the day before the fight. This gives the fighters 20-30 hours to reload their bodies following the weight cutting. For anyone that has ever seen Tito Ortiz or Matt Hughes fight, you should understand what I mean. Every time those two athletes fight anyone in the same weight class, they always look much bigger and stronger. The Tito Ortiz/Elvis Sinosic fight, where both fighters weighed in at 204 pounds comes to mind. At fight time, Tito looked 230 and Elvis looked 180. This should hammer home the fact that if things are done correctly, cutting weight has huge advantages.