bruce lee vs any boxer (106lbs to 240lbs)

[bsrizpac]

Joe Lewis says Bruce didn't exactly like the idea of even sparring let alone competing.

Yup. Joe Has said that.

BRUCE did not compete. That was not his thing. His thing was thinking and teaching and learning. That's fine.

But it's annoying that there's this insanely massive cult built up around the guy that disrespects REAL FIGHTERS that put it on the line.

**** I mean Masahiko Kimura would have destroyed Lee, let alone Helio or Rolles Gracie.

[WhoreUs]

Wrong. MMA came from all over the world:

Brazil (Vale Tudo/BJJ/Luta Livre)
Japan/Usa (catch as can, pro wrestling, hooking, catch wrestling styles)
Greece (Pankration)
Indian subcontinent (Pelwahni mixed wrestling).

But you are right, it is ******ed to say MMA or NHB came from Bruce lee.

i'm talking about the modern mma.

the ufc , pride , etc. clearest lineage is to the vale tudo events they had in brazil.

unless you want to count the catch wrestling events they use to have in japan.

obviously the fighting style dominant in mma now is from all over the place. the brazilians got their jiu-jitsu from japanese judo/jujitsu and some say the japanese got it from the indians.

[bsrizpac]

i'm talking about the modern mma.

the ufc , pride , etc. clearest lineage is to the vale tudo events they had in brazil.

unless you want to count the catch wrestling events they use to have in japan.

obviously the fighting style dominant in mma now is from all over the place. the brazilians got their jiu-jitsu from japanese judo/jujitsu and some say the japanese got it from the indians.

In that case you are correct.

Modern MMA comes from brazil (nhb/vale tudo) and japan (pro wrestling/judo/catch as can)

Your last statement is also correct.

[WhoreUs]

Bruce Lee would have been murdered if he faced a Cornishman!

cornish wrestling > jeet kune do

[bsrizpac]

cornish wrestling > jeet kune do

I'm pretty impressed by your actual knowledge of martial arts history. Kudos on actually researching stuff and not just buying into myths and legends.

[Steak]

doing fingertip pushups are amazing, no doubt. takes an unbelievable amount of strength to do it.

but Paul Lynch was able to do 124 one finger pushups in 1992. makes a freak of nature when it comes to strength...doesnt make him an unstoppable fighter.

[shadeyfizzle]

Wushu, also known as modern wushu or contemporary wushu, is both an exhibition and a full-contact sport derived from traditional Chinese martial arts

Wushu was pretty much invented for chairman MAO as a way incorporating and innovating traditional opera into modern 20th century film. Mao was fascinated with hollywood and wanted to direct his own motion picture derived from traditional chinese opera.

So martial arts films had been around long before Bruce Lee. But if you watch any of them from the 50s n 60s you'll notice they're all about fluid movements...but fighters would parry each other endlessly for about 10-20 mins. Impossible and impractical in real life.

[The_Golden_Boi]

What is it with everyone on here wanting proof! This forum is becoming boring when people get told then they go Prove It, for god's sake if he fought he fought, ffs i fought and won money but you not find that on the internet you want proof?

[WhoreUs]

Yup. Joe Has said that.

BRUCE did not compete. That was not his thing. His thing was thinking and teaching and learning. That's fine.

But it's annoying that there's this insanely massive cult built up around the guy that disrespects REAL FIGHTERS that put it on the line.

**** I mean Masahiko Kimura would have destroyed Lee, let alone Helio or Rolles Gracie.

kimura is the judo master that broke helio gracie's arm in brazil right?

[bsrizpac]

doing fingertip pushups are amazing, no doubt. takes an unbelievable amount of strength to do it.

but Paul Lynch was able to do 124 one finger pushups in 1992. makes a freak of nature when it comes to strength...doesnt make him an unstoppable fighter.

YUP. This argument is really ******. So the guy is incredibly fit so he can fight?

Give me a break. I can show you at least 20 youtube videos off the top of my head with random people doing freakishly athletic ****. So what?