bruce lee vs any boxer (106lbs to 240lbs)

[The_Golden_Boi]

Jesus Christ. Wu Shu is a demonstration art. Li is a master at it.

He has had no fighting tournament wins. Just tournaments in WU SHU. Learn what Wu Shu is.

And before you whine about the thread, take the time to read what I'm saying. I'm not calling Bruce Lee a fraud. I'm saying you can't rate him as a fighter since he never FOUGHT or fougth anyone legit. I mean some street scuffles are greata and all, but a lot of people have had those.

The real question is, if you think Bruce Lee could beat EVERY BOXER EVER, do you think WONG JACK MAN could do that same?

How about any random Kung Fu master? Aikido master?

These arts have not been proven in LIVE combat in the modern era (the early UFC, SHOOTO and pancrase events showed the weakness of NO SPARRING LIVE which most of these core arts do not do).

But hey, ignore my logic and research and just accept the movie fights you see as real. Fine by me.

Wushu, also known as modern wushu or contemporary wushu, is both an exhibition and a full-contact sport derived from traditional Chinese martial arts

[Kevin Jesus]

In my opinion, Bruce Lee would be a sucessful boxer from SFW to LW. Dude was just THAT talented, I never seen a fighter display that kind of speed, just amzing

My dad, he's an honest man. He told me that Bruce Lee was in Dominican Republic once(My dad was about the same age as Bruce). My Pops told me he got to meet him, Bruce was already famous. My pops and his brothers and a whole bunch of other people were there, Bruce let my pops touch his abs(no ****) My dad told me that he knocked on it like a door, and it felt like knocking on a hard tree. True story.

Btw, who has seen that video of Bruce Lee doing push ups with his Index Finger? I was shocked when I saw that.

[bsrizpac]

Wushu, also known as modern wushu or contemporary wushu, is both an exhibition and a full-contact sport derived from traditional Chinese martial arts

since I actually know what Wu Shu looks like and not just wikipedia'ed it, I'm just going to laugh at it's "full contact" sport aspect. If you had seen it you would too. BUT EVEN THEN:

Jet LI:

When Li was eight his talent for wushu was noticed at a summer course at school, and he began his practice there. Li participated in the sport of wushu in the non-sparring event. He began his wushu on the Beijing Wushu Team, an athletic group organized to perform martial arts forms during the All China Games. As a member of the team, he received wushu training and went on to win fifteen gold medals and one silver medal in Chinese wushu championships. According to Li, once, as a child, when the Chinese National Wushu Team went to perform for President Richard Nixon in the United States, he was asked by Nixon to be his personal bodyguard. Li replied, "I don't want to protect any individual. When I grow up, I want to defend my one billion Chinese countrymen!" which earned him much respect in his homela

[Proposition Joe]

Jesus Christ. Wu Shu is a demonstration art. Li is a master at it.

He has had no fighting tournament wins. Just tournaments in WU SHU. Learn what Wu Shu is.

And before you whine about the thread, take the time to read what I'm saying. I'm not calling Bruce Lee a fraud. I'm saying you can't rate him as a fighter since he never FOUGHT or fougth anyone legit. I mean some street scuffles are greata and all, but a lot of people have had those.

The real question is, if you think Bruce Lee could beat EVERY BOXER EVER, do you think WONG JACK MAN could do that same?

How about any random Kung Fu master? Aikido master?

These arts have not been proven in LIVE combat in the modern era (the early UFC, SHOOTO and pancrase events showed the weakness of NO SPARRING LIVE which most of these core arts do not do).

But hey, ignore my logic and research and just accept the movie fights you see as real. Fine by me.

uhhh were in my post did i mention you?? I mentioned the video proof yes, but I was more so addressing some of the more uninformed\ignorant responses on the thread.

[WhoreUs]

bruce basically invented mixed martial arts for those who didnt know

mixed martial arts came from brazil.

mixed martial arts is trying incorporate different striking and graplling styles into one.

that first started out with the luta livre guys from brazil.

they were tired of getting their asses kicked brazilian jiu-jitsu (judo) guys and all these boxers , wrestlers , capoeira and kickboxers got together and started training together to fight the bjj guys.

this was in the 30's , 40's , 50's , man.

bruce lee didn't invent mma.

[bsrizpac]

mixed martial arts came from brazil.

mixed martial arts is trying incorporate different striking and graplling styles into one.

that first started out with the luta livre guys from brazil.

they were tired of getting their asses kicked brazilian jiu-jitsu (judo) guys and all these boxers , wrestlers , capoeira and kickboxers got together and started training together to fight the bjj guys.

this was in the 30's , 40's , 50's , man.

bruce lee didn't invent mma.

Wrong. MMA came from all over the world:

Brazil (Vale Tudo/BJJ/Luta Livre)
Japan/Usa (catch as can, pro wrestling, hooking, catch wrestling styles)
Greece (Pankration)
Indian subcontinent (Pelwahni mixed wrestling).

But you are right, it is ******ed to say MMA or NHB came from Bruce lee.

[majestiC]

Bruce Lee would have been murdered if he faced a Cornishman!

[WhoreUs]

He appreciated them but he died before he could really study them.

He sparred with Gene Lebell and got completely handled- a fact his nut brigade will forget.

He DID not understand grappling. However, it is wrong for you to say he wasn't at least curious and hadn't THOUGHT about it.

He did tend to prefer stand up tactics more but you can see grappling ideals in there (notes in Tao of Jeet kun do)

was he planning on studying grappling before his death?

i know he got schooled several times by grappling guys. was it gene lebell the one? were there others?

[Liaison]

Joe Lewis says Bruce didn't exactly like the idea of even sparring let alone competing.

[bsrizpac]

was he planning on studying grappling before his death?

i know he got schooled several times by grappling guys. was it gene lebell the one? were there others?

I don't recall if he ever sparred with Wall or not. But I know Gene kicked his ass rather easily. Gene was no Joke back in the day.

I have heard different accounts from "Bruce LOVED grappling and would have incorporated it" (jockriders) to "Bruce tended to hate grappling but was aware of it" (haters).


I think he was aware of it but was not comfortable with it (in between). He might have incorporated it but we'll never know. He SAID he was open minded so it's not crazy to assume he would have dug it, but in practice you are right it seemed he understood the ranges of stand up fighting much better.