Roach: "Pac will fight Mosley @ 142, Cotto @ 140"

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  • Pullcounter
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    #31
    Originally posted by jching
    See this is what pisses me off with Roach and Arum. They constantly make claims that Pac is a natural 140 lber now and that it would kill him to go any lower than 140, but it's okay for everyone else to move down for Pac. Also, the jump up from JWW to WW is not that big, many "natural" JWW have made the jump, and if Pac truly is this ATG that Roach and Arum believe him to be, then he should move up and fight these guys at their weights or just fight the best at 140...
    c'mon man, the only reason why a fighter should move up in weight is if they can't make their current weight division anymore.

    for example, nate campbell can't make 135 safely anymore, so its a no brainer that he move up to 140.

    Pac can't make 135 anymore, and was 138 for a jr WW fight.

    if pac fought cotto and mosley at 147, he'd be at a huge weight disadvantage, as pac will only weight at max 150 lbs on fight night whereas cotto and mosley will be damn near MWs.

    the jump from 140 to 147 is one of the biggest jumps.

    let's flip the script a lil bit... if cotto and mosley are ATGs why don't they go down to 140 and beat pac at his best weight. see how that goes?

    Either cotto and mosley fight pac at a catchweight or ditch the payday and fight each other.

    to be honest, I prefer cotto and mosley just fight each other so all these crybabies stop crying about catchweights.

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      #32
      I stopped paying attention to Roach on this issue after he gave
      two different catchweight offers within two days. All this opening
      ambit **** aside, if a fight with either SSM or Cotto gets made, it'll
      almost surely be at 144-145.

      Cotto has pre-approved 145 already.
      Shane is sticking with 147.
      Pac has said anything's good from 140-147
      .

      Tell me again who's fucking things up?

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      • RisAri0
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        #33
        Roach knows both won't make that weight.. so with that said Roach n Manny can just wait for the July 18th winner..

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          #34
          Originally posted by Super Greg
          I mean I was voted numba #1 DJ in the world. I do not want my competition to come in to championship rounds with less samples.
          My boys Q-Bert or D-Styles could take you out with just one sample, homeslice. The "AAAAAHHH" or "FRESH" samples is all they need to out-scratch anyone. Unfortunately for you, that includes the almighty Super Greg.



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          • RodBarker
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            #35
            Originally posted by Super Greg
            It look a like Roach only want to fight ring zombies.

            He must play left 4 dead

            I mean I was voted numba #1 DJ in the world. I do not want my competition to come in to championship rounds with less samples.
            He wants Manny to be at even terms weight wise , Manny steps into the ring at 147 , Cotto and Mosley step in at near 160 ,,, that is too much to give fighters of their level ,,, they challenged Pac not the other way .

            You guys really need to understand the weigh-in weight and fight weight before you rubbish somebody on weight issues , Manny is too small for genuine elite in form WWs ,,, if I were Roach I would be doing the same thing he his absolutely right in what he saying and not a trainer in the world would be any different , only fans that dont understand the weights dog Roach and Pac for this .

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            • nolotek
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              #36
              Roach's comments are just annoying. One day he wants Pacquiao to fight Cotto, the other day he wants his man to fight Mayweather, and now Mosley the other. Come on!!! And all of this must be done in his own terms or no deal. The only reason he wants to face Cotto and Mosley in a lower weight is because he wants to dehydrate them to the bone and then crush them like they did with De La Hoya. Isn't easier for Pacquiao to gain some weight than for Mosley and Cotto to lose weight? If his boxer is so great, what's Roach afraid of?

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                #37
                Originally posted by mangler
                This is ******. WW's should fight WW's. Period.
                Agreed, Divisons is there for a reason.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by nolotek
                  Roach's comments are just annoying. One day he wants Pacquiao to fight Cotto, the other day he wants his man to fight Mayweather, and now Mosley the other.
                  Manny has talked about fighting Mosley for ages, though. This is nothing new, both Pacquiao and Roach are always talking about possible opponents.



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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RodBarker
                    He wants Manny to be at even terms weight wise , Manny steps into the ring at 147 , Cotto and Mosley step in at near 160 ,,, that is too much to give fighters of their level ,,, they challenged Pac not the other way .

                    You guys really need to understand the weigh-in weight and fight weight before you rubbish somebody on weight issues , Manny is too small for genuine elite in form WWs ,,, if I were Roach I would be doing the same thing he his absolutely right in what he saying and not a trainer in the world would be any different , only fans that dont understand the weights dog Roach and Pac for this .
                    Solid post, Rod.

                    I almost said "solid Rod" but quickly realized I wasn't gay.



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                    • wizard king
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                      #40
                      f**k pac i have lost total respect for this fighter i mean roach is a tool and only wants pac to fighters if pac has advantge over them. you cant be the best if youre not fighting fighters at their best. its true what was said cotto and mosley dont need pac at all. roach sure was not complaing about pac being 147 for the dlh fight

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