Think about Haye's resume for one second...

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  • warp1432
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    #41
    Originally posted by DarchinyFAN
    They are solid wins, but they are no better than some of the marginal contenders Klitschko has beaten at heavyweight, and they could just as easily been beaten by any top cruiserweight. Put Frag or Macca in with any top CW and tell me if you would lay any sort of money with any confidence on them.
    Not Enzo Mac, but considering Frag just had a draw with Wlod, who is ranked 2, he's a top crusierweight.

    His resume isn't anywhere near Wlad's, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he beat good contenders and doesn't have the terrible resume, people say he does.

    What makes Mormeck such a dominate CW? He split with Bell, and Bell wasnt great, he beat an overated Wayne Braithwaite, or an old Virgil Hill. I will give him credit for maybe being the best Cruiserweight for awhile, but lets face it, up until recently, being the best CW was like winning the Special Olympics Beauty Pagent. Also, would Mormeck have been tops so long if he had fought more than 9 times in 5 years (counting the L's to Bell & Haye)?

    5 title defenses. Hill was past it, but still a top crusier. Braithwaite was undefeated at the time plus the WBC champ. He unified.

    Oneil Bell was a good fighter and actually regarded around here before he fell of the planet and then quit against Adamek.

    Also Mormeck in 2006 and 07 fought 2 times a piece. That counts as being an active fighter nowadays anyway.

    Again I ask what top contenders, he exited the division before Adamek established himself, never fought Jones who was established, and as you mentioned he didnt fight Cunningham.

    Credit for what he did do, but its not as much as people pretend like it is.
    Jones an established what? A contender yes, but he lost to Cunningham. He resparked his career with wins over Braith and Arslan. Btw, Jones was inactive until 2007 and even if Haye did beat Jones, I'm pretty sure you would call him old.

    Enzo Mac was a top contender as was Frag. Let's not forget he beat the champ at Crusier also, which counts a lot more.

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    • Clint650
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      #42
      True. Adamek wasnt there yet for haye. Cunningham would have gotten a fight before adamek. I think haye would destroy them both anyways.

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      • Clint650
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        #43
        All in all, everyone at cw knew enzo was going to be haye's last fight.

        Haye definitely has the power, the speed, and the confidence to win this fight.

        We all know wlad can knock anyone out, and i won't be shocked if he continue's his reign at the top, but atleast haye brings some excitment.

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        • Chunk..
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          #44
          4 belts within 22 fights. I don't care how you wash it, that's some going. He deserves some recognition for his exploits at Cruiserweight.

          Haye could KO every fighter on earth and still get no credit from the 'Haye haters' on here. It's just the way it is.

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