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  • The Hammer
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    #11
    Originally posted by halford_saints
    Hayes resume after 22 fights > Wlads resume after 22 fights
    You should also consider Wlad won the Gold Medal at the Olympics. Haye had a mediocre amateur record, Wlad had a great one.

    As a pro, Wlad scored early KOs over virtually all his first 22 opponents. Unlike Haye, he wasn't stopped in any of those 22 fights, nor did he struggle in the slightest against any of them.

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    • Ryn0
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      #12
      Originally posted by halford_saints
      Hayes resume after 22 fights > Wlads resume after 22 fights
      This is the truth....

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      • The Gully Gad
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        #13
        Tell a lie i saw Haye's last fight as well.And while is an exciting fighter he was sloppy and way to open in that fight.Someone like Vlad in a war is gonna land straight down the pipe and catch him clean..

        I aint got him beating Vlad at all
        I got Vlad taking him out pretty early in a slugfest

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          #14
          Originally posted by ~Tunney
          You should also consider Wlad won the Gold Medal at the Olympics. Haye had a mediocre amateur record, Wlad had a great one.

          As a pro, Wlad scored early KOs over virtually all his first 22 opponents. Unlike Haye, he wasn't stopped in any of those 22 fights, nor did he struggle in the slightest against any of them.
          Amateur accomplishments dont mean anything in the pro game.... ask Audley Harrison

          The truth is Haye over 22 fight achieved more than Wlad did over 22 fights. That is a FACT

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            #15
            Originally posted by ~Tunney
            You should also consider Wlad won the Gold Medal at the Olympics. Haye had a mediocre amateur record, Wlad had a great one.

            As a pro, Wlad scored early KOs over virtually all his first 22 opponents. Unlike Haye, he wasn't stopped in any of those 22 fights, nor did he struggle in the slightest against any of them.
            Ross Puberty.

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            • halford_saints
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              #16
              Originally posted by ~Tunney
              You should also consider Wlad won the Gold Medal at the Olympics. Haye had a mediocre amateur record, Wlad had a great one.

              As a pro, Wlad scored early KOs over virtually all his first 22 opponents. Unlike Haye, he wasn't stopped in any of those 22 fights, nor did he struggle in the slightest against any of them.
              He got a silver medal at the World Amateur Championships in 2001...
              I dont class that as mediocre

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              • warp1432
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                #17
                Originally posted by ~Tunney
                No, Haye wasn't "unified" nor "undisputed" champ. He didn't even fight the top cruiserweights, namely Cunningham, Adamek and Jones.


                Everyone he defeated except for Fragomeni had been stopped before. Mormeck had been stopped by Bell, Gurov was known for a notoriously delicate chin and had been stopped three times, and Maccarinelli is a tomato can with a china chin, KOed in his last fight bu the light-hitting Afolabi.

                Haye's only good win is the smaller but durable Fragomeni.
                What a load of ****. When Haye fought Enzo Mac, Adamek hadn't even beat Bell yet. Jones was not a titlist either and was known as a journeyman in the division.

                Only Cunningham really had the argument of who Haye should have fought, but really no one at the time demanded the fight. Cunningham just got done beating Huck like a month after Haye beat Mormeck. There wasn't any demand of that fight. The demand was for Haye to either go up to the heavyweight division or fight Enzo Mac.

                Also Haye beat Mormeck (who avenged that loss to bell) quicker then Bell did. He KOd Mac quicker then Alfo did. He has a pretty decent resume.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Ryn0
                  Amateur accomplishments dont mean anything in the pro game.... ask Audley Harrison

                  The truth is Haye over 22 fight achieved more than Wlad did over 22 fights. That is a FACT
                  Haye is a natural heavyweight who hid in the cruiserweight division because he knew he couldn't take a heavyweight punch.

                  But by his own admission he could not make 200 any more, and now he's cashing out at heavyweight against Wlad.

                  Wlad KO 3.

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                  • Davros?
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                    #19
                    Mormeck was considered the no1 guy at cruiserweight he held the ring titles the linear title the WBA and WBC titles that was a very good win for Haye, Mormeck was the best cruiserweight around.

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                    • Heru
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ~Tunney
                      You should also consider Wlad won the Gold Medal at the Olympics. Haye had a mediocre amateur record, Wlad had a great one.

                      As a pro, Wlad scored early KOs over virtually all his first 22 opponents. Unlike Haye, he wasn't stopped in any of those 22 fights, nor did he struggle in the slightest against any of them.
                      You just gave more reason why he should have done more than Haye in his first 22 fights. Fighters with extensive amateur careers and Olympic experience are supposed to move faster than everyone else. Lol, and it's the pro ranks, not the amateur ranks, it shouldn't be considered anyway.
                      Originally posted by warp1432
                      What a load of ****. When Haye fought Enzo Mac, Adamek hadn't even beat Bell yet. Jones was not a titlist either and was known as a journeyman in the division.

                      Only Cunningham really had the argument of who Haye should have fought, but really no one at the time demanded the fight. Cunningham just got done beating Huck like a month after Haye beat Mormeck. There wasn't any demand of that fight. The demand was for Haye to either go up to the heavyweight division or fight Enzo Mac.

                      Also Haye beat Mormeck (who avenged that loss to bell) quicker then Bell did. He KOd Mac quicker then Alfo did. He has a pretty decent resume.
                      He'll conveniently avoid this. Good post.

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